Ukrainian forces still trying to hold Bakhmut despite heavy casualties

The Guardian ^ | Thu 9 Mar 2023 | Isobel Koshiw

[ansel12]

didi mau
slang Vietnamese for “go quickly”

didi
slang from the Vietnamese word di, meaning “to leave” or “to go”

[BobL]

“So many gullible freepers believing the msm lies and acting righteously.”

I’m convinced that the long-time Ukraine Cheerleaders understand the truth, as anyone here that long knows how to find unbiased information. But they likely answer to others, as we saw with Twitter.

[sit-rep]

Thank you!!

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Thank You Take 2!!

[Kazan]

The DPR and LPR have been fighting for their liberation against Ukrainian nationalists that have been murdering them for eight years. Civilians throughout this war have been targeted in Donetsk city.

You're ignorant buffoon if you refuse to acknowledge that a civil war has been going since 2014 pitting Ukrainian nationalists, including neo-Nazis, against ethnic Russians, one we setoff by meddling in Ukraine.

All you and your ilk do is lie.

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Thank You Take 3!!

[Kazan]

Wagner's use of massed, small sized, unsupported, untrained infantry attacks is getting in the way and getting lots of Wagner forces killed.

The Wagner group, not the regular Russian military, is kicking the Ukrainian army's ass:

https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukrainian-soldiers-in-bakhmut-our-troops-are-not-being-protected

They say that Russian artillery, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers are often allowed to strike Ukrainian positions for hours or days without being shut down by Ukrainian heavy weapons. Some complained of poor coordination and situational awareness, allowing this to happen or making it even worse.

Mortarmen spoke of extreme ammunition scarcity and having to use weapons dating back to World War II. Drones that are supposed to provide critical reconnaissance information are also scarce and are being lost at very high rates in some parts of the battlefield.

All this leads to terrifying casualties of both dead and wounded. "The battalion came in in the middle of December… between all the different platoons, there were 500 of us," says Borys, a combat medic from Odesa Oblast fighting around Bakhmut. "A month ago, there were literally 150 of us."

“When you go out to the position, it’s not even a 50/50 chance that you’ll come out of there (alive),” says the older Serhiy. “It’s more like 30/70.”

[Berlin_Freeper]

Putin warmongers know the word truth?

The Russian foreign minister was laughed at after saying the war in Ukraine was "launched against us".

[mac_truck]

Liberated yeah that’s why they’re fighting like hell to kill Russians.

ou pas...

[mac_truck]

I think Ukraine is trying to withdraw.

bugged out is more like it...

[mac_truck]

How far is it again from Bakhmut to Kyiv?

I'll bet this driver knows...

[Berlin_Freeper]

Ukrainian Third force showing them hit a group of wagner mercenary with an ATGM missile.

[Widget Jr]

That article was written by Igor Kossov on March 5, 2023. Here is what he tweeted about that article the same day it was published:

"In fairness, 🇺🇦 is doing better than 🇷🇺 in aggregate and individual men have a limited picture of the battlefield, so I'm not making any assumptions about what command's doing."

"But it'd be remiss of me not to write what those guys told me about their personal experiences."

War is not a one sided affair. It is equally horrific for both sides. He was doing his job evenhandedly, reporting how bad it was for Ukraine around Bakhmut.

He still thinks the Russians have it worse. If its as bad as he says it is for Ukraine, how bad is it for the Russians if they have it even worse?

[Salohcin]

Your constant repetition of lies won’t make them true. Russia has been at war with Ukraine for the past eight years. The reports of the OSCE observers do not support your false claims of “murder” or “genocide”, but they have reported that the Russian proxy forces did routinely violated the ceasefire from positions next to hospitals, schools, and apartments, using the civilian population as human shields. It’s been eight years of constant provocations by the Russians and their paid proxies.

[Right_Wing_Madman]

The word that you are looking for is “conquered,” not “liberated.”

Then why are the Donetsk and Luhansk militias fighting on the wrong side? Shouldn't they be allied with the Ukrainians?

[familyop]

This is posted to make sure that you see it here before the event, if the Russians go through with it.

Occupants Planning Large-Scale Provocation on Ukraine-belarus Border. russian Propagandist soloviov Is Instructed to Cover It
Defence Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine
March 9, 2023

Information has been received that the russian military-political command is planning a large-scale provocation on Ukraine-belarus border in the near future.

To cover the provocation in detail, main russian propagandist, Volodymyr Soloviov is expected to arrive in belarus. On March 11, it is planned to organize a tele- and radio conference and a live broadcast at the scene for russian propaganda media.

Several groups of russians are already arriving in belarus for this purpose. Probably, the plans of the occupiers foresee the threat of destruction of infrastructure facilities and possible civilian casualties.

The purpose of the provocation is to create a hostile public opinion about Ukraine among belarusian citizens and ensure the full-fledged participation of the country's armed forces in the war on the side of the russian federation.

This is to remind that Ukraine does not conduct any military operations in the territory of belarus.

[Petrosius]

Then why are the Donetsk and Luhansk militias fighting on the wrong side? Shouldn't they be allied with the Ukrainians?

You mean the militias that Russia has raised from the ethnic Russian minority to force their will upon the Ukrainian majority in Donetsk and Luhansk?

[CarolinaReaganFan]

Uke military should hang Z-ski for all that he has sent there to hopelessly and needlessly die there.The last Uke don’t have to die if they ceasefire..
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yesterday’s update from neutral source DPA
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Wagner captured East Bakhmut and North Bakhmut area of Ilyinovka [ Ukraine SITREP ] Day 377 (7/3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdRFBHPVMxM

[Right_Wing_Madman]

the Ukrainian majority in Donetsk and Luhansk?

You're the first Zeeper I've seen to claim Donbass has an ethnic Ukrainian majority. I'm willing to bet you can't locate Ukraine on an unlabeled world map.

[Petrosius]

You're the first Zeeper I've seen to claim Donbass has an ethnic Ukrainian majority.

Many people confuse majority Russian speaking with majority ethnic Russian. While the majority of Donbas is Russian speaking, this includes a large number of Russian speaking Ukrainians. The majority of the population actually identifies as Ukrainian, not Russian. Donetsk is 57% Ukrainian and only 38% Russian. Luhansk is 58% Ukrainian and only 39% Russian. I refer you to the 2001 census.

As for identifying Ukraine on a map, perhaps these maps could help to better understand the true ethnic composition of Donbas:

Share of ethnic ukrainians among the population of Ukraine, census 2001

Settlement of Russians in Ukraine according to the 2001 census