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New Ukraine positions near Kherson could signal spring offensive – report
The Guardian ^ | April 23, 2023 | Emma Graham-Harrison

Posted on 04/25/2023 4:33:13 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Ukraine’s military has set up positions on the eastern side of the Dnipro River near Kherson city, the Institute for the Study of War cites Russian military bloggers as saying.

Infiltrating the area could be a first step towards trying to dislodge Russian forces from positions they are using to shell and shoot at Kherson. The constant attacks have made it impossible for residents to return to normal life months after Ukrainian troops liberated the city from occupation.

Ukrainian military forays across the river could also mark the first tentative steps towards launching a long-awaited spring offensive to reclaim more territory.

“This is the first time ISW has observed reliable geolocated imagery of Ukrainian positions on the east bank along with multi-sourced Russian reports of an enduring Ukrainian presence there,” the thinktank said in an update.

The Russian military bloggers said Ukrainian forces had established stable supply lines to their positions and “regularly conduct sorties in the area”, the ISW said.

The reported positions were in marshy areas of islets and tributaries near the settlements of Oleshky and Dachi, the report said. Russia still holds those settlements.

A Ukrainian military spokesperson for the southern region declined to comment on reports that Ukrainian troops had achieved a foothold across the river.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


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But, but, but, I've been told repeatedly that it's over!
1 posted on 04/25/2023 4:33:13 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Could signal? The Ukraine army has been destroyed. Try again.


2 posted on 04/25/2023 4:44:13 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Bakhmut


3 posted on 04/25/2023 4:46:07 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Timber Rattler

A few infantry in a swamp with no means of supply or reinforcement except by small boat and under constant enemy artillery fire...

It could work!!!

Maybe it’s a distraction. Maybe a way to ID Russian firing positions.


4 posted on 04/25/2023 4:53:21 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: Timber Rattler

I certainly understand the psychology of “Our country has been invaded, we need to take back our land, let’s have a big offensive and push the Russians out.”

But in reality, an offensive push is a really good way to lose men and equipment. The Russians would dig in to defensive positions and deplete the Ukrainian assault. In fact, I’m not sure Ukraine has all that many soldiers left.

This “Ukrainian offensive” talk has me scratching my head. I think they will just lose faster. I think they are devastating their own country. And have been for many months.


5 posted on 04/25/2023 4:56:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: JonPreston

Why are you bothering us with your obvious propaganda lies?

There can be no respect for such a sickening liar.

I guess Ukraine has made a slobbering idiot of you.


6 posted on 04/25/2023 4:57:51 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Just wondering, are you an idiot or a propagandist?

“The offensive will just make them lose faster....”

I mean is that what the brainwashing has done to you?


7 posted on 04/25/2023 4:59:49 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

If Biden is for them I am against them. The Ukraine must die. Is is just that simple.


8 posted on 04/25/2023 5:00:39 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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To: Williams
are you an idiot or a propagandist?

Why do you tumble into childish name calling the minute you disagree with someone? How old are you?

9 posted on 04/25/2023 5:10:15 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Fai Mao

No, you are that simple

Biden is for these countries should they ask be invaded and die?

England
Germany
Italy
Finland
Poland
Japan

Is that really too difficult for you?


10 posted on 04/25/2023 5:11:03 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: JonPreston

I respect intelligent discussion your statements are outright lies and are just idiotic.
I have no respect for what you are up to here which is nothing good and that is obvious.


11 posted on 04/25/2023 5:11:54 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Standard formula for an offensive is to outnumber the enemy 5 to 1. Does Ukraine have those sorts of numbers? Think of WWI — the offensives across no man’s land were deadly (to the attacker). Think of the Battle of Iwo Jima, or Okinawa. Or Gettysburg, and Pickett’s charge. Offensives can certainly be required, but there is no question they can be costly to the attacker. Especially when the defender loves artillery the way the Russians love artillery.

I don’t picture the Ukrainian army, at this point, being over-filled with hundreds of thousands of able-bodied young men aged 18 to 24 with loads of high quality training.

I’m just saying that a depleted army going on the offensive is going to lose a lot of men. Are you seriously going to say that statement is incorrect?


12 posted on 04/25/2023 5:12:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: Fai Mao

You’re a former professor and that’s your mentality about the world? Are you kidding?


13 posted on 04/25/2023 5:13:07 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Fai Mao

If Biden is for them I am against them.
———
Something the war cheerleaders can’t grasp- their leader senile Joe has bamboozled them time and time again, mandates, shut downs, deadly in-effective vax, Afghanistan debacle, sanctions boomeranged, our fuel reserves decimated, our military severely weakened, the list is getting longer every day.

The Ukie’s corruption is legendary in the EU ( they know) , from their government to their entire financial and banking system: Joe was all over it like a fly on Shiite……

When do Americans wake up?


14 posted on 04/25/2023 5:15:21 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Williams

You are 180 degrees out of phase for whom has been brainwashed.


15 posted on 04/25/2023 5:15:57 AM PDT by Codeflier (My voting days are over. Let it burn...give the people what they want good and hard.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Grind up more humans for Brandon, Putin, Zelinsky and Zeepers’ delight.

Surely lovely in your eyes. More dead men.


16 posted on 04/25/2023 5:16:06 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Timber Rattler
Biden's team fears the aftermath of a failed Ukrainian counteroffensive
Behind closed doors, the administration worries about what Ukraine can accomplish.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/24/biden-ukraine-russia-counteroffensive-defense-00093384

17 posted on 04/25/2023 5:17:14 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Williams
your statements are outright lies and are just idiotic

I asked why you can't write a sentence without name calling, and you respond with more name calling. Let me guess; you describe yourself as a conservative, you're glued to Fox news with an IQ below 100.

18 posted on 04/25/2023 5:17:38 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Wrong guess.

And by the way my comment that you are lying and that your statements themselves are idiotic was not named calling it was a statement a fact and an explanation of why I treat your comments here with zero respect. Because you are peddling propaganda for Russia and it’s obvious.


19 posted on 04/25/2023 5:23:24 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: FlyingEagle

We could apply your statement to World War II now couldn’t we?


20 posted on 04/25/2023 5:24:17 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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