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California takes aim at freight train emissions, bans non-electric train engines
FOX NEWS ^ | April 28, 2023 | By Thomas Catenacci

Posted on 04/28/2023 4:58:40 PM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: artichokegrower

The insane left is going to kill us all.


41 posted on 04/28/2023 7:21:48 PM PDT by bray (Dr Fauxi killed millions)
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To: kvanbrunt2

True.

Look for the post by someone with their great train picture and my reply.

no.7 and no.24.


42 posted on 04/28/2023 7:24:02 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Lordy, they are morons. There isn’t a less expensive and cleaner method of moving goods than diesel locomotives. Where does CA think all this electricity is going come from?>>> There is a startup company in silicon valley that is producing 100 mile long extension cords. Also 1 mile long extension cords so city folks can charge their EV’s at night parked a mile away from their house.


43 posted on 04/28/2023 7:24:14 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Idiots on parade.


44 posted on 04/28/2023 7:41:13 PM PDT by Dave911
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To: Don W
I then informed him that rail freight’s efficiency is in the neighborhood of over 300 miles per ton for one gallon of diesel.

... that would be 300 ton-miles per gallon of diesel. ... you're welcome.

45 posted on 04/28/2023 7:50:28 PM PDT by dr_lew2
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To: kvanbrunt2

I once bought a cordless extension cord, but I couldn’t figure out how to plug it in. I thought it was almost as good of an idea as instant water. 😂


46 posted on 04/28/2023 7:50:31 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: artichokegrower

California is committing economic suicide in the name of a cult called climate change.

5.56mm


47 posted on 04/28/2023 7:55:19 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: frank ballenger

I know someone who works in global logistics. Asked them about why Georgia seems to have warehouses and distribution centers popping up like weeds.

California…since covid insanity and the maniacs there banning diesel trucks, international shipments are routing to the gulf and the east coast.

They said that the port of Long Beach will never recover.


48 posted on 04/28/2023 8:04:43 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: artichokegrower

I guess that means BART will be expanded statewide and start hauling freight.

Shouldn’t take long to build out the infrastructure.

They’ll need a new acronym, though.


49 posted on 04/28/2023 8:06:07 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: noiseman

Don’t try and present those people with simple facts. They cannot bear them.

For them, it’s all rainbows and lollipops and everything runs on unicorn farts.

Mu only wish/hope is that they have such a successful marketing campaign that liberals start moving there by the millions and that the movie industry leaves Georgia, taking all of its liberal Gypsies with it.


50 posted on 04/28/2023 8:08:44 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: waterhill

You have heard right.
Modern train engines are all diesel-electric. (Except for the pure electric ones when the tracks are electrified, an expensive project worth only on very busy tracks.)
Big diesel engine generates steady electrical power which is then used to run the electrical engine and all additional appliances.
BTW, The same scheme is getting implemented on many big modern boats.
It has been done that way for a quite long while, without any gov. regulations.

Reason - electric engines have flat power vs RPM curve, while diesels are just opposite. so operating diesel engine at the peak power point makes it very efficient.
The hybrid cars are doing the same.
At the Train or boat level, this is a more useful solution as the bulky diesel-electric systems fit there better than on small cars. Plus diesel engine power curve is more peaked than the gas engine one.

Yes, if they want to electrify all tracks in CA, they could have all electric trains. With electricity made by some coal plant anyway.
Making trains haul huge batteries and wait days at some recharge stop is impossible.


51 posted on 04/28/2023 8:08:53 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: ConservativeInPA

Dummy. You plug it into itself. It’s cordless.


52 posted on 04/28/2023 8:14:21 PM PDT by umbagi (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it. [Twain])
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To: artichokegrower

The vast majority of train locomotives are diesel electric. The primary mover is electric motors on the drive wheels. The diesel runs a generator to run the motors. So, the trains are already electric.


53 posted on 04/28/2023 8:32:08 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: artichokegrower

All for nothing, as usual in Kalifornia.


54 posted on 04/28/2023 9:02:36 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: MeganC

CA’s diesel HM laws affect all diesels operating in state, that are commercial use and weigh over 14k. Including in state rvs too.

This law was passed in 2021. This new bs is different


55 posted on 04/28/2023 9:25:50 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Ron DeSantis. The latest GOPe champion in a long list of winners. Jeb! Mitt Romney, and John McStain)
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To: dr_lew2

I used that exact term, but for some reason that phrase eluded me today.

Not sure what happened there, “brain fart” I guess


56 posted on 04/28/2023 9:44:22 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: AZJeep

An engine drives, a motor is driven.

The SUPER simplified version goes:

An engine takes a primary energy source (fuel/heat) and converts it into a secondary energy source (electricity, or steam)

The device that converts that energy into motive force is a motor.

The terms motor and engine are NOT interchangeable. To those that understand English, at least.


57 posted on 04/28/2023 9:58:19 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: artichokegrower

California can’t tell the railways anything. It’s all federal control. Interstate commerce


58 posted on 04/28/2023 11:44:32 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: artichokegrower

California is shutting down travel in the state. Totalitarians hate the the thought that people can just go somewhere when they like. Electric cars may become the only ones on the road but he roads will be empty because the grid will not support more than a small number. Long distance trains will be gone as putting electric wires for electrics all over the state won’t happen. “Get a horse!” may become a popular cry-out agaın.


59 posted on 04/29/2023 3:06:31 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefec )
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To: frank ballenger

Interesting read, thanks.


60 posted on 04/29/2023 3:24:12 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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