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15 yrs, $BILLIONS, not a mile of track & running out of money - what am I?
Hotair ^ | 05/19/2023 | Beege Welborn

Posted on 05/19/2023 7:47:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 05/21/2023 12:23:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If you answered “California’s high speed rail line to nowhere” you win an evening with Nancy Pelosi!!

Pelosi
AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster

Okay. That was blatantly false. She’d never agree to that and I shouldn’t have teased you with even the possibility – get your hopes up and all.

But you were right! I hope that’s comfort enough in these hard times.

In 2008, California voted yes on a $9 billion bond authorization to build the nation’s first high-speed railway. The plan is to construct an electric train that will connect Los Angeles with the Central Valley and then San Francisco in two hours and 40 minutes.

But 15 years later, there is not a single mile of track laid, and executives involved say there isn’t enough money to finish the project. The latest estimates from the California High-Speed Rail Authority suggest it will cost between $88 billion and $128 billion to complete the entire system from LA to San Francisco. Inflation and higher construction costs have contributed to the high price tag.

The project has spent $9.8 billion so far, according to Brian Kelly, CEO of the California High-Speed Rail Authority.

Let’s check in with the governor, who was San Francisco’s mayor when this all got started.

Gavin Newsom 2010: Well, finally, California is going to get it right with this new High Speed Rail.

High Speed Rail 2023: LoL, no… pic.twitter.com/qR1qxp9AOe

— BiBIP (@Biruta09843219) May 18, 2023

Ah. Still the same, effective leadership producing about the same results.

Meanwhile, they’re just burning through cash and hoping for a bailout between either the crumbs of Biden’s “infrastructure” bill (most of the rail money is going to Amtrack) or a federal separate money dump.

…Despite the funding challenges, progress has been made on the project. In California’s Central Valley, 119 miles are under construction. The project recently celebrated its 10,000th construction worker on the job. The infrastructure design work is complete, and 422 out of 500 miles have been environmentally cleared, which is a monumental task in California.

“When we finish just the environmental clearing process, that cost is about $1.3 billion,” Kelly said. “And that’s for no steel in the ground or no cement.“

Well, DERP, the environmental stuff is eating you out of house and home. Did you forget you’re attempting this in CA?

And those 119 miles of track they hope to lay and get to running trains on? Don’t make your reservation for any time soon.

In 2008, California approved plans for nearly 400 miles of high-speed rail that would connect L.A. and San Francisco by 2020.

Instead, it got 119 miles of track that might be usable by 2027 — raising the question: what impedes American infrastructure? ➡️ https://t.co/Wo8OhA0LqI pic.twitter.com/3Rnl0DUdsF

— Kite & Key Media (@kiteandkeymedia) May 14, 2023

This is not, repeat NOT the same as the federal plan to shoot a high speed line out to Las Vegas that was such a disaster. Now, there is a bipartisan push underway from California and Nevada congressional reps begging for bucks to resurrect that same CA to Vegas high-speed rail line and may they have no luck.

This Los Angeles to San Francisco plan was approved by the CA legislature in 2008, has been paid for mostly by CA and wasn’t too highly endorsed out of the gate. Go figure.

Not to mention that CA's "high-speed" rail project is NOT the one approved by voters, but the plan created by the California Legislature.

Here's one high-speed rail advocates assessment of the Legislature's plan. BTW, the Legislature never let voters approve their "plan." pic.twitter.com/C2caePBnTW

— Soquel by the Creek (@SoquelCreek) May 12, 2023

Why it wasn’t became apparent when they finally started moving earth. Problems began almost immediately.

…One of the most expensive parts of the California project is the tunneling section that will be required outside of Los Angeles, so construction started in 2015 in the middle first, in Fresno, California, since it is a cheaper section to build.

Kelly said the project got off to a rough start. “They got into construction before they were ready to get into construction,” he said. “The good news is most of that is in our rearview mirror. And as we go forward, we’re getting the sequencing and chronology of our work right, and I’m very confident about the future of this project.“

The rail authority said the goal is to have the section between Bakersfield and Merced operational between 2030 and 2033.

So the 2027 date for operational was optimistic by about 5 or 6 years. And mind you, they were starting with the “easy part” first – they still have to tunnel through the stuff north of LA, with zero idea of what they’re going to run into.

Oh, great.

It’s easy to be “confident about the future” when you’re 15 years in and not much has happened. Got it locked on now, do you?

Where have we heard this song before?

The grim news for the rail was already flooding in when a report was released in March that the authority had overshot secured funding by $10B.

When Gov. Gavin Newsom unveiled his scaled down blueprint for the California bullet train four years ago, he proposed building a 171-mile starter segment in the Central Valley that would begin operating in 2030 and cost $22.8 billion.

Today, the blueprint is fraying — costs now exceed future funding, an official estimate of future ridership has dropped by 25%, and the schedule to start to carry people is slipping. That’s raising fresh concerns about the future of the nation’s largest infrastructure project.

New cost figures issued in an update report from the California High-Speed Rail Authority show that the plan to build the 171-mile initial segment has shot up to a high of $35 billion, exceeding secured funding by $10 billion.

The cost of that partial system is now higher than the $33 billion estimate for the entire 500-mile Los Angeles to San Francisco system when voters approved a bond in 2008.

What’s worse, that full system cost is set at up to $128 billion in the update, leaving a total funding gap of more than $100 billion for politicians to ponder.

When you run your state construction projects the same way the governor runs the state, those budgets are bound to look about identical. Lo and behold, they do. Every one of them is in a hole they dug for themselves.

As for federal help, we’ve got a Republican congress and it sure doesn’t sound like the local guy is going to be asking his fellow representatives to write any checks to his district any time soon. And thank God.

…Bakersfield native and now House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long called the project, which would serve his own district, a boondoggle.

In no way, shape, or form should the federal government allocate another dollar to California’s inept high speed rail,” McCarthy said in a statement to CalMatters. “The California High Speed Rail Authority has missed countless timelines and deceived the public about costs which are exorbitantly higher than originally estimated.”

You GO, Kevin! Man, I am so liking the cut of his jib since he got the job.

This is going to be one of those “is it too big to fail” scenarios and CA sure seems to be the epicenter of those boondoggles lately, every last one self-inflicted.

And they still have to calm those people down about the reparations they’re not going to pay.

Popcorn, anyone?

Sorry, not sorry.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gavinnewsom; highspeedrail; newsom
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1 posted on 05/19/2023 7:47:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

2 posted on 05/19/2023 7:48:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"What Am I"?

Ummmm, a DemonRat money-laundering machine sort of like Biden's fake LLC's but with a lot more dirt.

3 posted on 05/19/2023 7:52:59 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The WINNER gets an evening with Nancy Pelosi?? What do they do to the loser?

I don’t think I want to play.


4 posted on 05/19/2023 7:53:27 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said— “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert... Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

--"Ozymandias," by Percy Shelley

5 posted on 05/19/2023 7:54:32 PM PDT by Publius
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To: SeekAndFind

the cousin of the big dig


6 posted on 05/19/2023 7:58:24 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind

Second prize, two evenings with Pelosi. Third prize, three evenings with Pelosi.....


7 posted on 05/19/2023 8:04:32 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: RetiredTexasVet

You wouldn’t have to get her drunk if you wanted to take advantage of her. She comes pre-drunk.
You would have to be drunk, too, though.


8 posted on 05/19/2023 8:10:24 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: SeekAndFind
The rail authority said the goal is to have the section between Bakersfield and Merced operational between 2030 and 2033.

That section is about 260 miles long via hwy 99. It takes about 2.5 hours to drive, depending on car and driver.

If one were to take a high speed rail from Bakersfield to Merced, here's what it might entail...

1. Buy a ticket (won't be cheap, even if subsidized)

2. Drive to HSR station, and park (and pay for parking), and check bags

3. Go through security

4. Board and ride train for 260 miles (if the train was not late. Most likely, the train is running late. Trains are so frequently late.)

5. Get luggage

6. Rent a car or obtain a Taxi.

So, to take the "bullet train", a prospective rider would pay more, much much more, for a trip that would take longer, perhaps hours (days?) longer .

And, taking a few steps back, we can see why no one, save for some hopeless lefty train romantics and some obedient Dem serfs, would ever consider taking the unfortunately mis-named "high speed" rail.

Something else to consider, Bakersfield and Merced (which are very nice in their special ways) are not vacation or visitation centers of the once Golden State. The folks wanting to travel between the two destinations comprise a remarkably select group.

9 posted on 05/19/2023 8:16:30 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: Still Thinking

Two evenings and one night with Nancy!


10 posted on 05/19/2023 8:26:31 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: SeekAndFind

I recall something about the contact being awarded to the engineering firm Tutor-Perini which was partially owned then by Richard Blum, the husband of Diane Finestein.


11 posted on 05/19/2023 8:41:25 PM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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12 posted on 05/19/2023 8:44:26 PM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is really too bad this failed, that the concept was crippled by the government, corrupt, and filled with lies. The idea of a high speed rail line is great—but why not build it in the median and right of ways of the freeways, already public land? And why not legislatively exempt it from the state’s environmental laws, specifically the red tape? And why is it that government-run construction is too often under estimated and over budget and always late?


13 posted on 05/19/2023 8:45:59 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Anybody But Trump. Tired of Trump's Boorish Antics, Poor Hiring and Life Choices. We Can Do Better!)
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To: SeekAndFind

"I did that!
14 posted on 05/19/2023 9:02:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Ah but which Pelosi? :)


15 posted on 05/19/2023 9:19:53 PM PDT by xp38
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To: SeekAndFind

Posting AP photos here is a copyright violation exposing FR to lawsuits.


16 posted on 05/19/2023 9:24:14 PM PDT by deks (Praise be to God...always)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is supposed to solve the Global Warming problem.
But, by 2030, we will be all dead.


17 posted on 05/19/2023 9:41:27 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: SeekAndFind

High speed rail is like the big dig in “mass of two shitz” Tax payer money used for other things like supporting invaders and social programs


18 posted on 05/20/2023 1:47:20 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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They’ll be shuffling the invaders and homeless around on the DemoRat trains to glory. With LA and SF turning into deeper shades of sheet holes there will be less viable passengers to pay for keeping up the expensive boondoggle. They will tax it with subsidies but the golden goose has flown away.


19 posted on 05/20/2023 3:26:59 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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To: SeekAndFind

This is nothing compared to the solar powered train to Hawaii AOC’s new green deal would have built. I figure the taxpayers would end up a couple of trillion in for only ten feet of track.


20 posted on 05/20/2023 3:34:24 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (I stayed drug - free going on 63 years for this?)
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