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DeSantis Exempts Elon Musk’s Tesla from Florida Car Sales Law
The National Post ^ | June 16, 2023 | JACK MONTGOMERY

Posted on 06/17/2023 11:27:42 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: Falconspeed

Not fair. If Tesla is allowed to “cut out the middleman,” then all car companies should be allowed to “cut out the middlemen.

Very true....some on this thread have said - how can this be legal? Others have said - these laws haven’t been tested in court.

Has anyone asked the manufacturers care if it’s legal? Has anyone asked if the car makers want to deal with the hassle of selling directly to the consumer?

Tesla might be the #1 EV, they don’t sell more than the Big 3 overall, plus Toyota, Lexus, Nissan, Infinity, Honda, Acura, Hyundai, Kia, etc etc etc.

So, they can sell directly to the few liberal hipsters that want the POS or the wealthy guy that can drop over $100k for a Sunday driver.

What’s really sad is how much of his manufacturing goes on in China, if not all of it, his cars get the tax breaks and he and his Chinese masters are laughing all the way to the bank. When, in reality, if he wants to build cars in China, using slave labor, and sell them in the US, there should be a $10-15k tariff on each one entering the US.

Same goes for all the Chevy’s that are being made in China and brought to the US for sale. Barra said that GM has zero intention of increasing production so they can keep the price tags high for all their vehicles. Every Chevy made in China and shipped back to the US should have a tariff equal to the MSRP. All of that, plus the fact that GMs majority shareholder is the Shanghai Motor Company/CCP

https://www.motortrend.com/features/inside-deal-sell-gm-chinas-saic-13985/ Basically, Jinping and the CCP own 51% of GM.


21 posted on 06/17/2023 12:35:00 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: SoConPubbie

What does DeSantis know about business? Let me look that up. Yep. Never had a job in the private sector. He knows NOTHING. He shouldn’t be picking winners and losers. He should be trying to get government out of the way of individuals and businesses. This kind of crap doesn’t win my vote.


22 posted on 06/17/2023 12:40:56 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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To: devere
The usual Trump-cult garbage.

Shove your TDS where the sun doesn’t shine. Other states having laws like this doesn’t make it right. Florida didn’t have a law until now. Going with the crowd when it comes to government is generally not a good idea.

23 posted on 06/17/2023 12:44:25 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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The problem is, even Tesla thinks that they can overcharge because "it's Florida". That money is not being passed onto the consumer. In a much tighter market, ie, north of Florida, where in many places Tesla is still a novelty, you can get a last-year Plaid new as a 'kicker', at Model S prices.

There is no place in Florida that will do that. Even outposts like Lake City, Merritt Island, Pensacola (nice store) -- not happening.

24 posted on 06/17/2023 12:53:17 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: liberalh8ter

As opposed to the DeSantis cult?


25 posted on 06/17/2023 1:08:22 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: ConservativeInPA
You'll have to deal me out of the 'DeSantis bashing' game. It was his strong support for monoclonal antibody treatments - with "treat-now-pay-later" treatment centers spread across the state of Florida, that I'm convinced saved my life and that of my 84-year-old COPD-disabled mother.

And, quite honestly, I think I prefer an America where local businesses are nurtured.

26 posted on 06/17/2023 1:19:55 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Dr. Sivana

Agree.

Absent the “no state shall” restrictions of the Constitution, the states have near plenary powers.

Oh, and the first eight amendments to the Constitution, despite Scotus nonsense, do not apply to the states.


27 posted on 06/17/2023 1:22:32 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: alancarp

“what business is it of the state in ‘permitting’ any manufacturer from selling its wares?”

Thet can sure set up that as a business model, but this seems more about protecting franchisees.

I used to work in a wholesale business we were not allowed to sell to the public, only to retail stores. Would make no sense for us to undercut our own customers anyway.


28 posted on 06/17/2023 1:27:48 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: SoConPubbie

Crony Capitalism with a Mouse, now with a Musk?

That’s the Florida Swamp way..

Beware Musk, keep your mouth shut... Mickey didn’t and it cost him..


29 posted on 06/17/2023 1:29:34 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: SoConPubbie

Maybe he should sign blank checks to big pharma and lockdown the entire country as the leader of the free world.


30 posted on 06/17/2023 1:37:43 PM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: The Duke
, I think I prefer an America where local businesses are nurtured.

I had several businesses over the course of my life. The last thing I ever wanted was to be nurtured by the teat of government. That’s nothing more than welfare for some and taxes for others. Small businessmen, at least the better ones don’t want help from government. They just want government to get out of the way. Businessmen want to have the satisfaction of knowing they built something on their own. Government often gets in the way of that.

When government starts getting involved with small business they end up picking winners and losers there too. For some reason, government types want to fiddle with things when they don’t need helped and the government types have no eff’n clue what to do anyways. They go looking for problems where there are none. This bill signed by DeSantis is a perfect example. Cars have been sold in Florida for over 100 years and there hasn’t been a need for such a law. Government is fiddling and there isn’t a damn one of them that has ever worked and built something.

31 posted on 06/17/2023 1:38:02 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why is he so much in your head. If Trump is winning by 50 what do you care? You have a weird obsession with him.


32 posted on 06/17/2023 2:06:05 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF ADCMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

He knows how to fight the left


33 posted on 06/17/2023 2:07:28 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF ADCMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: delchiante

Good. Culturalmarxost Disney deserved to be punched in the mouth. And so do other Cultural marxist Companies.


34 posted on 06/17/2023 2:10:31 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF ADCMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: BobL
Trump's going to blast DeSantis for fighting Cultural Marxist Disney while Trump was silent and holds a gay pride event at his House?
35 posted on 06/17/2023 2:14:33 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF ADCMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: devere

Thanks for that article. It says that all states have dumb laws that protect car dealerships in some way (but not always complete prohibition of direct-to-consumer sales).

Looking into this some more, it appears that the situation is complicated. About half the states allow direct-to-consumer sales of electric cars. (It’s the existing dealers of gasoline-powered cars that lobby politicians for protection, of course.) Source: https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2021/The%20Case%20for%20Direct%20Sales%20—%20March%202021%20Update.pdf

The whole thing is ridiculous. Of course you should be able to buy a car directly from a manufacturer, and the manufacturer should be able to sell a car to you.


36 posted on 06/17/2023 2:25:44 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: SoConPubbie

The law is a stupid one anyway. But Musk should not be the only exception to it.


37 posted on 06/17/2023 2:50:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ConservativeInPA

Wrong again! Florida did already have a pro-dealer law: https://reason.com/2023/06/15/florida-doubles-down-on-anti-competitive-car-dealership-law/


38 posted on 06/17/2023 2:55:18 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere

Then he’s double of a moron.


39 posted on 06/17/2023 3:08:47 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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To: Theo

The spin (aka, deception) is heavy-handed but not unexpected from what appears to be a pro-Trump media source. I’m referring to the title/article, not to the bill itself.

I don’t know all the ramifications of direct sales from a vehicle manufacturer replacing the typical car dealership setup. We’ve always bought through a dealer, since we’ve only bought used cars by trading in the cars we had. One of my father’s personal joys was to go car shopping with the intent of bringing a “new” used car home that same day.


40 posted on 06/17/2023 4:48:20 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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