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Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell CNN
CNN via Yahoo ^ | June 22nd, 2023 | Jim Sciutto

Posted on 06/22/2023 1:12:45 PM PDT by Mariner

In its early phases, Ukraine’s counteroffensive is having less success and Russian forces are showing more competence than western assessments expected, two western officials and a senior US military official tell CNN.

The counteroffensive is “not meeting expectations on any front,” one of the officials said.

According to the Western assessments, Russian lines of defense have been proving well-fortified, making it difficult for Ukrainian forces to breach them. In addition, Russian forces have had success bogging down Ukrainian armor with missile attacks and mines and have been deploying air power more effectively.

Ukrainian forces are proving “vulnerable” to minefields and Russian forces “competent” in their defense, one of the Western officials said.

The officials cautioned that the counteroffensive is still in its early stages – and that the US and its allies “remain optimistic” Ukrainian forces will be able to make territorial gains over time. The US and its allies are likely to wait until at least July for a fuller assessment of the progress of the counteroffensive which was gradually launched over the last few weeks and is seen as crucial to determining who ultimately wins the war which was launched when Russia invaded last year.

In addition, these officials note that Ukrainian forces have themselves been adapting to Russian tactics and defenses, including carrying out more dismounted operations. In recent days, Ukrainian forces have also had more success targeting and shooting down Russian aircraft.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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It seems the Ukrainians are still unwilling to hasten their own demise to support the demands of their western masters.
1 posted on 06/22/2023 1:12:45 PM PDT by Mariner
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They need to hurry up - Blackrock has big contracts lined up.

True story.


2 posted on 06/22/2023 1:14:24 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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3 posted on 06/22/2023 1:15:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Mariner

globohomo neoCON zelensky puffers rejoice in the death of white Christians in a needless war


4 posted on 06/22/2023 1:20:14 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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Answer: Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell

Question: What is the definition of the term "quagmire"?

5 posted on 06/22/2023 1:20:59 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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Time to drop the guns and go home.


6 posted on 06/22/2023 1:21:42 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Well clearly its because they don’t have enough money!! The Pentagon needs to get cracking, find some old accounting errors, and start cutting checks!


7 posted on 06/22/2023 1:27:28 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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What’s the deal? I thought Big Guy Bro Construction Co. was going to “rebuild” Ukeland like he did Iraq.


8 posted on 06/22/2023 1:29:40 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Remember a few months ago when the fighting was centered around Bakhmut with all the fighting done by the Wagner Group ??

The comments he on FR and elsewhere was the Russian military was incompetent and was not a formidable military

Well, eventually the Wagner group took Bakhmut while the regular Russian military was building up the defensive lines several layers deep that know exactly when Ukraine attempts to advance and unloads on them with rockets, artillery and air power, it is sheer suicide for Ukraine to continue this offensive without proper air cover


9 posted on 06/22/2023 1:31:38 PM PDT by srmanuel
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I’m still waiting for Rachel Maddow at MSNBC to release the Trump Moscow Pee Tapes

In 2017, she said it would be released within 24 hours....


10 posted on 06/22/2023 1:41:12 PM PDT by PGR88
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How many conscripted Ukrainians would risk their lives for globalists such as Zelensky, Vindman, Jao Bai-din, Crackhead Hunter Biden, Nuland, Schiff, etc.?


11 posted on 06/22/2023 1:41:15 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Exactly


12 posted on 06/22/2023 1:41:53 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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...Ukraine’s counteroffensive is having less success and Russian forces are showing more competence than western assessments expected,

I don't know who they talked to because we all knew it would never be enough without more arms and money.

Isn't that how this carousel goes around?
13 posted on 06/22/2023 1:42:10 PM PDT by ssfromla (All of this is to see how far they can push us and I have to tell)
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This war will take years ...and could drain “our” treasury.


14 posted on 06/22/2023 1:43:43 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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Ukraine needs to hurry up because Brandon’s Trump policy busting Iran deal (that was brokered by Putin) is on hold because they won’t accept another Kremlin engineered genocide of the Ukrainian people.


15 posted on 06/22/2023 1:45:52 PM PDT by lodi90
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revive the Partisans

effective and cheap!!


16 posted on 06/22/2023 1:46:17 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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Whenever you don’t meet expectations or goals, the obvious answer is to lower them ... this method has proven successful in all communist regimes.


17 posted on 06/22/2023 1:49:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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Turns out that armored vehicles without air support are vulnerable to helicopter gunships, drones, and mines. Who could have possibly foreseen that?


18 posted on 06/22/2023 1:59:49 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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That’s an understatement.


19 posted on 06/22/2023 2:06:10 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: ssfromla

Brothers and sisters, Srednik recommends Denys Davidov, The Enforcer, TVP World, Reporting from Ukraine, Reddit’s Combat Forum, Operator Starsky, Break the Fake for sources of information on the war. If you only want the top three, here they are in Srednik’s rank order: 1-Reporting from Ukraine, 2- Reddit’s Combat Forum, 3- The Enforcer.

For the Heavenly outlook on this, see Ezekiel 38 and Ezekiel 39. Amir Tsarfati will explain that to you.

S Bogom! (Go with God)


20 posted on 06/22/2023 2:08:24 PM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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