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Federal appeals court hears challenge to Illinois gun and magazine bans
Just the News ^ | 6/29/23 | Greg Bishop

Posted on 06/30/2023 6:35:39 AM PDT by CFW

Whether Illinois' gun and magazine bans are constitutional is now up to a federal appeals court.

The consolidated cases challenging state and local gun and magazine bans in Illinois were heard Thursday by a three-judge panel of the Seventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.

Defendants asked the court to affirm the Northern District Court upholding the bans while reversing a Southern District Court injunction against the law.

Using U.S. Supreme Court precedent from an opinion released last year, plaintiffs argue the gun ban violates the Second Amendment plain text and there’s no history or tradition of governments banning commonly owned firearms like AR-15s and magazines over 10 rounds for rifles and 15 rounds for handguns.

Illinois Deputy Solicitor General Sarah Hunger argued Thursday that the bans on semi-automatic firearms are constitutional.

“Assault weapons are virtually identical weapons to M-16s but for one thing, which is that M-16s can use automatic fire instead of semi-automatic fire and sure that is a distinction but it is not one that is constitutionally determinative,” Hunger said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gunbans; illinois
It always amazes me that the left can state that the 2nd Amendment doesn't mean exactly what it says, while at the same time find all sorts of rights in other Amendments although no such right is clearly stated.

And just as in this case, the left uses hypothetical examples that have no bearing on the issue to argue that certain firearms should be banned.

1 posted on 06/30/2023 6:35:39 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW
This essay might help you understand:

Gun Control is in Progressivism’s DNA

2 posted on 06/30/2023 6:52:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: CFW
Second Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It takes years of law school think that this gives the "free State" authority to deny law abiding citizens ownership of guns.

3 posted on 06/30/2023 6:55:18 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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Another example of how retarded these stupid gun laws and the morons who come up with them are. It is a felony for a drug addict to possess a gun but it is legal for an alcoholic to possess a car. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. I’m missing something here.


4 posted on 06/30/2023 7:01:54 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A man in NM is killed over a movie theater seat. The azhos in The Swamp think guns are the problem. )
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To: CFW
“Assault weapons..

Eh? Exactly what is an assault weapon, Mr. Hunger?

..are virtually identical weapons to M-16s but for one thing, which is that M-16s can use automatic fire instead of
semi-automatic fire and sure that is a distinction but it is not one that is constitutionally determinative,” Hunger said.

Well, Mr. Hunger, the Bruen case holds otherwise. Maybe the decision's finding that you "need to evaluate the
regulation not in consideration of the public good, but in light of the "historical tradition of firearm regulation" should be reread.

5 posted on 06/30/2023 7:03:25 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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To: CFW

What’s so hard to understand about “shall not be infringed”?


6 posted on 06/30/2023 8:10:13 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: CFW
“Assault weapons are virtually identical weapons to M-16s but for one thing, which is that M-16s can use automatic fire instead of semi-automatic fire and sure that is a distinction but it is not one that is constitutionally determinative,” Hunger said.

If that is the case, then the difference between 3-round burst and fully automatic wouldn't be constitutionally determinative, right?!?
7 posted on 06/30/2023 8:51:54 AM PDT by ExTxMarine
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To: CFW

Here is a Winchester from 1907.
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/53410/has-a-weapon-functionally-equivalent-to-the-ar-15-been-available-for-u-s-civili

And another Remington Model 8 made in 1906.

https://laststandonzombieisland.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/mtgs-texas-ranger-model-8.jpg.

The only reason semi-auto rifles were not available in 1860 was smokeless powder had not been invented yet.


8 posted on 06/30/2023 9:14:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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