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To: JesusIsLord

Slavery was a major issue during the founding of the country but was allowed to continue to pull the country together. If the founding fathers had insisted, there was a really good chance the country was never founded.


9 posted on 07/04/2023 6:08:21 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Mean Daddy
Slavery was a major issue during the founding of the country but was allowed to continue to pull the country together. If the founding fathers had insisted, there was a really good chance the country was never founded.

This may or may not be true but would have no bearing on the sentiment of a slave in regard to Independence Day. Nazism brought prosperity to most Germans - but not all. Did German Jews under Hitler celebrate Nazism? No, they rightly hated Nazism, which caused them unspeakable pain and loss.

I believe any fair minded person can understand why a slave in the U.S. would not appreciate the 4th of July. In other words, how can one celebrate the 'independence' of a nation in which he is a slave?

10 posted on 07/04/2023 6:35:31 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Mean Daddy

I thought that was a real possibility, because Georgia and South Carolina at least could have chosen an alliance with Spain and remained sovereign nations.


12 posted on 07/04/2023 6:43:36 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Mean Daddy; JesusIsLord

That has nothing to do with speaking the Truth not being ‘bitter’.

Truth is Truth.


21 posted on 07/04/2023 8:01:55 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Mean Daddy

In 1776 the REAL issue was independence.

Everything else would need to wait.


24 posted on 07/04/2023 9:10:27 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Mean Daddy

Funny how slavery pulling the country together ended up at one point tearing it apart.


45 posted on 07/06/2023 12:11:58 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Mean Daddy
Slavery was a major issue during the founding of the country but was allowed to continue to pull the country together.

Allowed? Every single state was a slave state in 1776. I think the first state to stop slavery was Massachusetts, and they only did it through a ridiculous legal trick by an activist court. They didn't vote to get rid of it.

I'm not so sure that slavery was a big issue for the states in 1776. Later it became more significant, but I don't think it was all that big in 1776.

If the founding fathers had insisted, there was a really good chance the country was never founded.

The Committee of five stripped out all of Thomas Jefferson's anti-slavery rhetoric from the original draft of the Declaration. With all 13 states making money from slavery, it was very foolish to even put that in there. John Adams and the rest knew better than to indulge Jefferson in this topic.

There would never have been a USA if they had started out on that foot.

50 posted on 07/07/2023 7:52:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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