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Chilling advice for Putin: You can save Russia, crush West, with nukes
American Family News ^ | 7/7/23 | Chad Groening, Billy Davis

Posted on 07/08/2023 5:57:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

A national defense analyst says NATO and the West need to pay attention to Russia’s repeated warnings about using nuclear weapons, this time from a notable academic who concludes Russia must consider nukes to stop NATO expansion and to “save humanity” from the West.

“Russia and its leadership seem to be facing a difficult choice,” begins the academic paper by Sergei Karaganov. “It becomes increasingly clear that a clash with the West cannot end even if we win a partial or even a crushing victory in Ukraine.”

That frightening document, which published in late June, goes on for another 2,900 words to conclude using “God’s weapon of Armageddon” will prevent – not create – a worsening crisis in Europe. "The enemy must know," he writes, "that we are ready to deliver a preemptive strike in retaliation for all of its current and past acts of aggression in order to prevent a slide into global thermonuclear war."

The word "nuclear" is used 27 times and "nuclear weapon" is used 10 times by Karaganov, a historian and political scientist.

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1 posted on 07/08/2023 5:57:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Ain’t gonna happen.


2 posted on 07/08/2023 5:58:24 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Chilling advice for Putin: You can save Russia, crush West, with nukes

China’s Xi warns Putin not to use nuclear arms in Ukraine

Chinese leader Xi Jinping made his most direct criticism yet of Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine on Friday, warning the Russian president not to resort to nuclear weapons and calling on visiting German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to push for peace talks.

Xi’s warning comes just over a month after Putin threatened Ukraine with a nuclear attack, a sign of how far Ukrainian forces had rocked the Kremlin with their advances against invaders in the East.

The international community, said Xi, should “jointly oppose the use of, or threats to use, nuclear weapons,” according to a statement carried by Xinhua, China’s state news agency. The world should also “advocate that nuclear weapons cannot be used, a nuclear war cannot be waged, in order to prevent a nuclear crisis” in Europe or Asia, Xi added.

3 posted on 07/08/2023 6:02:36 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: HighSierra5
Ain’t gonna happen.

I hope not, but why do you say that?

4 posted on 07/08/2023 6:02:40 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: HighSierra5

Putin setting off nukes? Well I say never underestimate Joe Biden to massively f-up everything. It may seem like Putin would never use nukes but then you have to consider the Biden factor and you can see how it is very possible for the nukes to fly.

Then we will get a press conference from Biden like this

“Today Putin launched...you know...the thing, God save the Queen man”


5 posted on 07/08/2023 6:02:50 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Give the democrats and biden a little time. If they are unable to cheat to make the election fair, in their eyes and minds, biden and the democrats may use the nukes on Americans to even the score. Would biden and the democrats do that ? Well, they are democrats and abortion (murdering children) is their want of SOP


6 posted on 07/08/2023 6:04:47 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: HighSierra5

A rabid dog that has teeth will use them when backed into a corner.

Don’t be so sure.


7 posted on 07/08/2023 6:05:40 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

And the little haberdasher killed Patton for suggesting we wipe out the Soviet Union after the war ended.


8 posted on 07/08/2023 6:05:56 AM PDT by LIConFem (This Space For Rent)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Any war with Russia will end in nukes.


9 posted on 07/08/2023 6:11:27 AM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: libertylover

When someone is 100% sure something can or in this case can’t happen, it makes me believe the reverse is entirely possible.

If this so-called Ukrainian Counteroffensive continues to show no progress or outright collapses, I predict there will be calls from the War Crowd in Washington for the use of American Ground Troops.

It’s absolute insanity to think nuclear weapons usage is a real possibility, it’s also insane to me to think we would be on the verge of WW III over Ukraine.

However remote it might be the use of nuclear weapons is a real possibility.


10 posted on 07/08/2023 6:18:41 AM PDT by srmanuel ( M)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

We know Putin is depraved enough to use nukes

Question is he crazy enough to do it ........


11 posted on 07/08/2023 6:19:47 AM PDT by njslim
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To: srmanuel

—> I predict there will be calls from the War Crowd in Washington for the use of American Ground Troops.

I suspect we already have many on the ground - both spec ops and intelligence


12 posted on 07/08/2023 6:21:37 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Why can't we all just get along?
(A girl with flowers in her hair asked me that back in '69)


13 posted on 07/08/2023 6:23:22 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
"The enemy must know," he writes, "that we are ready to deliver a preemptive strike in retaliation for all of its current and past acts of aggression in order to prevent a slide into global thermonuclear war."

A preemptive strike will result in a massive retaliation.

It really comes down to use or lose (for your own weapons) at that point.

If you people only knew how quickly we'd know even before a single missile is fired that we're being attacked. It won't start with a mushroom cloud, but only end up with a forest of them everywhere.

Every nation with nukes will use there arsenals to prevent losing their own weapons to their own enemies. China would be hit and hit back, India and Pakistan, France and the UK would fire, North Korea would be hit and also strike. There are conditions (such as an assassination, bombing or strike on the command authority (meaning the President and the officer with the "football")) where a strike/strikes can be launched without approval. Submarines, cut off from communications, would fire also, some possible weeks later, if not tracked down and sunk. Expect the global chaos to prevent that finding them.

Karaganov, a historian and political scientist, doesn't have a clue as to what forces the world has ready to go.

All the nuclear weapons Russia has are not ready to go. More than half (and this applies to the USA also) are not mated to a delivery system or are in storage or various conditions of maintenance from replacing electronics to degraded or unstable atomic components. The numerical difference of nuclear weapons between Russia and the USA for immediate delivery is about the same.

Hint to him:

·Russia: 6,257 (1,458 active, 3039 available, 1,760 retired)
·United States: 5,550 (1,389 active, 2,361 available, 1,800 retired)
·China: 350 available (actively expanding nuclear arsenal)
·France: 290 available
·United Kingdom: 225 available
·Pakistan: 165 available
·India: 156 available
·Israel — 90 available
·North Korea — 40-50 available (estimated)

14 posted on 07/08/2023 6:30:25 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Karaganov is a fellow of Carnegie Endowment


15 posted on 07/08/2023 6:32:33 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Russia has ‘nuts’ too.

Putin has many conventional weapon programs underway. He will rely on those.

Putin will try to kill lots of Ukrainian soldiers while trying to minimize Russian losses.


16 posted on 07/08/2023 6:35:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
A rabid dog that has teeth will use them when backed into a corner.

1951 PSA

17 posted on 07/08/2023 6:35:54 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The US has suburban sprawl, Russia doesn’t.

Russia has nuclear targeting problems and the US can accurately hit Russia’s comparatively compact cities.


18 posted on 07/08/2023 6:41:54 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How does this square with the Book of Revelation?


19 posted on 07/08/2023 6:46:46 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: HighSierra5

I agree the probability isn’t high....but the possibility is there.


20 posted on 07/08/2023 6:49:51 AM PDT by ealgeone
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