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1 posted on 07/19/2023 4:48:59 PM PDT by george76
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Is he still alive?

He's been in hospice longer than the hostages were in Iran.

2 posted on 07/19/2023 4:52:00 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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Yes. He does. The Shah was better.


3 posted on 07/19/2023 4:52:18 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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What about the American people?


4 posted on 07/19/2023 4:53:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Ooh Rah!


5 posted on 07/19/2023 4:54:07 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: george76

Jimmy Carter owes a lot of Americans an apology.

BTW, the deposed CIA-installed Shah was a son of a bitch in his own right. Doesn’t excuse the current regime’s atrocities, but the revolution happened for a reason and disappearances of political opponents, crushing dissidents and protests, stealing money & property from citizens was aplenty during that regime.


6 posted on 07/19/2023 4:54:46 PM PDT by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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Drill, baby Drill.

Billy Beer >>> Bud Light.


8 posted on 07/19/2023 4:58:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Reagan was elected in m 1980; he took the oath of office in January,1981.


9 posted on 07/19/2023 5:00:35 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert ( Vivek Ramaswamy 2024)
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Someone please post the score
turned out
Country good neutral bad
Iran
Iraq
Afghanistan
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S Vietnam
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11 posted on 07/19/2023 5:03:43 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h g)
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Jimmy Carter....the Grandaddy of modern terrorism.

If one has never been to a muslim country, one doesn’t have any idea what they’re like on the ground.

Afghanistan....Yes, Bacha Bazi is real.

The entire Muslim World...led by people that are considered heavy handed. Why? Because they know how dangerous the ‘bad guys’ are.

So, they do one of two things or both:

1. they put them in prison for a long, long time, as the Shah and so many others did.

2. they corral them in an area and leave them alone. They’re left alone with the knowledge that if they pop their heads out and cause trouble, it’s going to be bad, really really bad for them and their pals.

When Carter forced the Shah out and rolled out the red carpet for the Ayatollah, the prisons were emptied and modern terrorism was reborn.

Of course, no one likes to talk about another terrorist, Mandela. In prison for bombings and murders, but they ignore all of that and paint him as a political prisoner.


12 posted on 07/19/2023 5:06:25 PM PDT by qaz123
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Carter owes the people of Iran an apology.
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100% agree. A colossal blunder and a betrayal.


20 posted on 07/19/2023 5:25:00 PM PDT by Yardstick
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Neither Jimmy Carter nor the CIA could have cured the Shah’s leukemia and the Pahlavi dynasty would have never survived the death of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.


21 posted on 07/19/2023 5:52:51 PM PDT by Round Earther
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The USSR was involved in the timing of the Iranian “student uprising” in order to provide cover for their invasion of Afghanistan. Moscow correctly predicted that Carter would become completely preoccupied with Iran and so would not have the division of attention to interfere with their annexation of Afghanistan.

He even had given the USSR a Ford truck plant with the proviso that all trucks be painted red, believing that that would make them unsuitable for military use. The Russians simply set up an auto body repair shop on their side of the border with Afghanistan and the invasion forces rode in in freshly repainted olive drab Ford trucks.

Carter also was responsible in part for the US intelligence community being blindsided by the embassy siege in Tehran because he had decimated the US’s entire human intelligence community with his Executive Order 12036. Taking a page from former Secretary of State Henry L. Stimson’s playbook, he believed that human spying was a base and reprehensible activity. As Stimson put it, “Gentlemen don’t read each other’s mail.”

Thanks to EO 12036, HUMINT in Iran was reduced to a shadow of what it previously had been, leaving the US’s intel assets spread too thin to catch wind of the “student revolution.”

One of Boss Ray-Guns first acts as POTUS was to sign Executive Order 12333, which countermanded most of Carter’s EO 12036, particularly the restrictions it placed on HUMINT.


29 posted on 07/19/2023 6:46:58 PM PDT by threefinger
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I just remember when the Shah was celebrating something like 2500 years of Iranian monarchy, and my dad pointed out that the Shah’s father had seized power only about 50 years before.


30 posted on 07/19/2023 7:04:03 PM PDT by x
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At the time Carter was the worst President of my lifetime.

He’s since been succeeded by Biden.

L


32 posted on 07/19/2023 7:09:15 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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https://thehostagerescueattemptiniran.com/evidence-jimmy-carter-abandoned-the-shah-of-iran/


34 posted on 07/19/2023 7:43:23 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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Um, France could have helped matters by NOT releasing Khomeini to go back to Iran.


40 posted on 07/19/2023 10:07:11 PM PDT by montag813
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Carter administration paved [the] way” for Khomeini’s return to Iran from exile.


And if they get their way foolish Republicans will do the same for Ukraine - pave the way for Putin’s return.


41 posted on 07/20/2023 4:28:54 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; ...
B.S.
Thankfully, that sad chapter finally ended on Jan. 20, 1980, the day President Ronald Reagan took the oath of office at the U.S. Capitol.
Looks like it was proofread by John Kerry.

46 posted on 07/20/2023 8:40:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: george76

He owes the Jews in Israel, an apology.


55 posted on 07/20/2023 6:09:04 PM PDT by JoeRender
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The democrats think evil can be changed to nice.


56 posted on 07/20/2023 11:45:50 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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