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Poll: Trump Leads Biden, West in Hypothetical Race for White House; DeSantis Craters in Primary Contest
Breitbart ^ | Aug 19, 2023 | Nick Gilbertson

Posted on 08/20/2023 9:10:40 AM PDT by backpacker_c

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To: DoughtyOne

The fact that we still have to shake some people on our side to see the truth after almost eight years is mind boggling. The Republican Party and many in the conservative movement are total frauds!


21 posted on 08/20/2023 9:37:50 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Sarah Barracuda

So bidens good to go? No need for him to debate in late 2024 against trump. Good to know.


22 posted on 08/20/2023 9:37:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: DoughtyOne

Does Trump want to debate Briben if he is the nominee? Skipping the RNC debates will be that invalid’s excuse for skipping any debates with Trump. “he wouldn’t even debate his own fellow Republicans...”


23 posted on 08/20/2023 9:38:20 AM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: DoughtyOne

RE: Bud, why should he go and allow the moderators to be the
extra pseudo candidate, trashing him constantly throughout?


Agree.
Nearly all the times in history I thought the leader should refuse outright to debate. Let them put an empty chair to ridicule as in governor or mayoral races. Who cares? There’s always a line or an error the candidates regret. (Dukakis pondering if the potential rape of his wife should get one reply or another, et al.)

Richard Nixon used to quote the line:
No one ever lost an election over the speech they didn’t make.

Hate CNN but this is a good summary of words that flow out of the mouth and can never be recovered.
Note: I know this is a runup to later actual 2 contender debates but great harm can be done in the early ones, too.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/presidential-debate-mistakes-history/index.html


24 posted on 08/20/2023 9:38:23 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: going hot

That’s my take also.


25 posted on 08/20/2023 9:39:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: going hot

He deserves some daggers. He should have to answer to his coronavirus disaster.


26 posted on 08/20/2023 9:39:33 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

They guy is at 55% of the poling now. You do realize that
right?

Do you think that 55% is going to plummet if he doesn’t attend
the debates?

Most folks can remember back four years. They’ve seen the
moderators abuse their position.

It’s just pointless for him to attend.


27 posted on 08/20/2023 9:41:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: going hot

So Trump should hide in his gold plated mansion?


28 posted on 08/20/2023 9:45:25 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: backpacker_c

“Hypothetical” lol

RDS isn’t going to drop out 6 months before Iowa, based on daily push polls. His internal polling tells a different story. Trump’s internal polling tells a different story too. One that has Trump begging TWICE now for the other candidates to drop out. Funny, he didn’t beg anyone to drop out in 2020.

Remember when Trump was publicly saying that Biden was too scared to debate him repeatedly, and Biden debated him? Me too.


29 posted on 08/20/2023 9:46:26 AM PDT by Garden Island
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To: DoughtyOne

I just think it’d get him to 70 percent. He needs to get the other 45 percent on board.


30 posted on 08/20/2023 9:47:53 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: MountainWalker

Everyone know what Trump is like, by now....

Why should he bother with the faux news rnc debate right now, where the candidates are basically fighting over the support of the nevertrumpers?


31 posted on 08/20/2023 9:48:11 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: backpacker_c

Emerson poll (16 Aug - 17 Aug)
Trump 42
Biden 41
West 5

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden_vs_west-8249.html


32 posted on 08/20/2023 9:48:47 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Garden Island

RDS isn’t going to drop out 6 months before Iowa, based on daily push polls. His internal polling tells a different story.


The only reason desanctimonious hasn’t dropped out, is he’s sold obligations to the uniparty so he could get support to run from the uniparty.

And jeff roe hasn’t grifted the rest of the 100 or so million remaining in the superpac into his pockets.


33 posted on 08/20/2023 9:51:48 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: backpacker_c

Well, roe got about 15-20 million of that already, so it’s probably closer to about 60-70 million remaining


34 posted on 08/20/2023 9:53:49 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: Signalman

Do we really know who Vivek Ramaswamy is? Out of 5 times he could have voted for President he has only voted 2 times, one vote was for a Librarian candidate in 2004 and Trump in 2020. He’s not politicly engaged. I can’t take someone like that seriously for President.


35 posted on 08/20/2023 9:54:50 AM PDT by CaptainK ("If life's really hard, at least its short")
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To: napscoordinator
Oh, he would indeed get daggers thrust at him, from all sides, relating to the covid, unlike the ENTIRE EFFING UNITED STATES GOVERMENT AND PHARMA AND CHINA. OH AND THE ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL NEWS MEDIA, AND FOREIGN GOVT'S FOR PURPOSES OF USING IT TO KILL MILLIONS AND STEAL A PRESIDENCY IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE WORLD, BECAUSE HE DARED TO ROCK THIR BOAT, AND CAPSIZE IT and not getting a peep from the same assholes,yet "TRUMP!" "TRUMP!"

God, but your shit is getting old.

/rant

Deep breaths, going outside to swelter.

36 posted on 08/20/2023 9:56:03 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Kaiser8408a; All

Hahaha...He’s not predictable. That’s just one of the many reasons the people love him and the Repukes hate him. They either turn their fire towards each other or talk about Trump. Trump can also take the steam by truthing in the middle of the debate something along the lines or, there is definitely a clear front runner for the VP position. He should do it when Scott Vivek and Hailey answer a question in close succession. He’d probably win the news cycle just with that.


37 posted on 08/20/2023 9:56:18 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: Reno89519

You should GFY, seriously. Just do it.


38 posted on 08/20/2023 9:57:03 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: backpacker_c

IF DeSantis had an ounce of pride and self respect, he would shut down his campaign and throw his full support behind President Trump.


39 posted on 08/20/2023 10:03:20 AM PDT by Howie66 ("Biden-Fetterman 2024. It's A No Brainer")
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To: napscoordinator

Perhaps you can explain to me and others how it will benefit
Trump to have every question to him delivered with a three
minute slam of him based on Leftist ideology.

They will undoubtedly do their best to taint any jury pool
people they can. They will make it sound like he’s a
terrible tyrant criminal misogynist rapist terrorist and
Russian collusionist.

- - - - -

Okay this evening we are going to address real issues that
are troubling US potential voters this campaign season.

Candidates:

Please tell us your views about whether a person with four
indictments with close to 40 counts, and more on the way,
hanging over his head should be able to run for president.

Candidates:

Please tell us if a person found guilty of just one of
hundreds of counts brought against him, should be able to
hold the office of president?

Candidates:

Please tell us if you think a candidate with many charges
brought against him should be able to run for the
presidency. If grand jurists think a person is likely
guilty, should that person step down from being a
candidate?

Candidates:

Would such a candidate be qualified to be president?

Candidates:

A candidate found guilty of defaming a woman who had called
him a rapist for 20 years, but was defeated in court when
asked to prove it, why was he only fined $500,000 dollars?

Candidates:

With this award against a candidate, does it make it
unseemly for him to be running for president, with his
integrity so destroyed?

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You think 60-90 minutes of this would move Trump’s numbers
to 70.00%?

I think those that support Trump are able to understand
why he would not subject himself to this.


40 posted on 08/20/2023 10:06:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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