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98-year-old German man is charged with accessory to murder at Nazi concentration camp
NY Post ^ | 09/01/2023 | AP

Posted on 09/01/2023 7:16:01 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: dfwgator; skeeter

You forget how indoctrinated these kids were through the Hitler Youth programs.
They were drilled into their skulls full of mush the Nazi program.
And none of it mentioned killing Jews or anyone else. These misguided teenagers believed their fight was to protect the homeland and fight bolshevism.
Go on tube and look for “WW2 stories”
It gives a perspective of the average German soldiers and a few of Soviet soldiers. It’s quite interesting.
There was no opposition opinion allowed and no media that wasn’t piping out the Nazi sludge.


61 posted on 09/01/2023 8:56:18 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: RedMonqey
What should scare the $hit outta everyone is we are living in a post Christian world. In 1939, Germany as much of Europe was overwhelmingly church going Christians.

Indeed.

I'm starting a biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a Christian dissident in Nazi Germany. Hitler was able to roll over the active Christian movement in Germany, but Bonhoeffer represented what was a large Lutheran and Catholics opposition to the Nazis and the Nazis were always very wary of them - and Germany's Christian conscience. That's why that one comment triggered me: if we expect a prison guard to not "just follow orders," exactly what order or morality do we expect him to follow???

With that Christian conscience gone - the gates of hell await.

62 posted on 09/01/2023 8:59:08 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: RedMonqey

Sure is amazing to see how any thread about nazis is flooded with people charging in to “explain” and “contextualize” things and protect the Reich from unfair slander.


63 posted on 09/01/2023 9:04:12 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: cgbg

I doubt he ever fired his gun. Given he’s charged with 3000 deaths, that’s alot of shooting even for a front line soldier on the Russian front who used human wages to overcome German positions.
The prosecutor is pulling numbers outta his ass to shock the German public.
Given that in the Korean and Vietnam wars, captive soldiers were convicted of war crimes by their captors, guess it would have been alright for them to execute our boys?
Yep...”holier than thou”


64 posted on 09/01/2023 9:04:24 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: RedMonqey

Everyone in Germany was required to have a copy of Mein Kampf.

Hitler laid out in Mein Kampf exactly what his plans for the Jews were.


65 posted on 09/01/2023 9:06:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: PGR88

And despite the protestations abounding, anyone working in a camp could volunteer for the front. Like every other military, some seek positions where they sleep indoors on a bed, won’t get shot at, and eat in a mess hall.


66 posted on 09/01/2023 9:06:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

What hogwash.

Not one person here has defended what the Reich did.
Just the ridiculous hyperbole of charging a kid for the crimes of a regime in which he had no vote in.


67 posted on 09/01/2023 9:07:00 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How many of those running gulags have been convicted of crimes? Why only nazis and not communists?


68 posted on 09/01/2023 9:07:32 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: imabadboy99

How many were convicted of crimes for Holomodor?

That was ok because they were communists and the communists running USA and Europe today approve of communism.


69 posted on 09/01/2023 9:11:17 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: RedMonqey

Oh noooo, of course not. We just get treated to and endless stream of assaholic sophistry parroting nazi apologetics, while saying the obligatory “of course I’m not defending what happened... but”.

https://youtu.be/CPks6vvjIwg?t=13


70 posted on 09/01/2023 9:12:04 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: dfwgator

Mein Kampf was a wedding present for all weddings under the Reich.

I am sure the newlyweds read it before consummating the marriage.

Lol.

In the book the Jews were called all sort of names—kinda like whites are in the modern US.

But—just like today they do not talk about future concentration camps in the major texts.

Hitler called it the “Jewish problem”.

Today they call it “climate change”.

Nice and vague....


71 posted on 09/01/2023 9:17:14 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: RedMonqey

My argument is even stronger—every single Freeper would have pulled the trigger as a guard in those camps—every single one.

The moral grandstanding around here is sickening.


72 posted on 09/01/2023 9:19:17 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: dfwgator

I’ve read Mein Kampf a while back and yes Hitler compared Jews as rats and was obsessed with VD, perhaps he had one?
He definitely believed Jews were ruining “Aryan blood” by interbreeding and by spreading verenral disease

But nowhere does he say anything about exterminating the Jews. Not in his contrived book He wanted to send to Mozambique, of all places.
In the early years of the Nazi era, he even allowed them to leave Germany(but without their wealth) but no other country, including the US, would accept them.
The mass extermination of the Jews wasn’t decided until after the war started when they Nazis captured countries with large populations of Jews and that’s when the huge death camps were created in Poland.

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73 posted on 09/01/2023 9:19:52 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: PGR88
There has long been a disparity between the treatment of Nazis vs. Communists. Few Communist Party or secret police members received punishment for crimes that equaled or exceeded those of the Nazis. Most died in bed. When Communist crimes are mentioned, Stalin is blamed, or Pol Pot or the Kims of North Korea. There have been numerous movies on the Holocaust, but none to my knowledge on the Holodomor.
74 posted on 09/01/2023 9:20:01 AM PDT by Wallace T. (5)
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To: DesertRhino

You’re being hysterical.

You make it sound like FR is Storm Front, just as the leftist accuse all conservatives.


75 posted on 09/01/2023 9:23:05 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: RedMonqey

Your history is correct—and the many Jews who left Germany and moved to other countries—one family at a time—are the proof.


76 posted on 09/01/2023 9:23:13 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: PGR88

In Germany they varied tremendously. Minor camps could be quite small, probably focused on ad hoc slave labor. Major camps, like Dachau, had overcrowded wooden barracks for the inmates, and were about the size of a suburban US high school.

And while it had cremation ovens, Dachau was not listed as an extermination camp, so most of its victims likely died through disease and starvation.

It’s quite a study.


77 posted on 09/01/2023 9:26:04 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: RedMonqey

It’s a bit off-topic, but years ago I read an article about this black African who was studying in Germany. And he got trapped there when WW II broke out.

This guy was, of course, about as non-Aryan as you could get. Yet the Nazis did not bother him in the least. He was able to go to restaurants, walk the streets, etc. with no problems at all.

Weird, huh?


78 posted on 09/01/2023 9:29:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

An isolated black person probably wasn’t all that big of a deal to the Nazis, not as if they were were a threat, as they had perceived the Jews to be.


79 posted on 09/01/2023 9:31:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Leaning Right

“...this guy was, of course, about as non-Aryan as you could get. Yet the Nazis did not bother him in the least. He was able to go to restaurants, walk the streets, etc. with no problems at all...”

That is the advantage of being a minority of ONE.


80 posted on 09/01/2023 9:33:55 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Saludemos la patria orgullosos)
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