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Not even Europhiles should be damned for the sins of their ancestors
The Telegraph ^ | September 1, 2023 | Catherine Pepinster

Posted on 09/03/2023 8:10:46 AM PDT by Fiji Hill

Antoinette Sandbach is not an obvious target for progressive opprobrium. She may have been elected as a Conservative MP, but she sacrificed her career for the Europhile cause – defecting to the Lib Dems and losing her safe Tory seat.

Ms Sandbach has been named by a Cambridge researcher as a descendant of 19th-century slave owner Samuel Sandbach, involved in the slave trade in Guyana.

Others, too, suffer from what might be called colonial guilt. The BBC journalist Laura Trevelyan was so affected by learning that her Trevelyan ancestors owned more than 1,000 slaves on the Caribbean island of Grenada that she gave up her job to become a full-time slavery reparations campaigner and pledged £100,000 to make amends. Descendants of John Gladstone, father of the Victorian prime minister, William, have apologised for his slaveholding past and pledged to fund research into slavery in Guyana.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ancestry; grenada; whiteguilt; whiteshame
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More "white guilt" and "white shame."
1 posted on 09/03/2023 8:10:46 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

There’s no England now.


2 posted on 09/03/2023 8:11:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yep...all one has to do is search for the number one name of male children born there.


3 posted on 09/03/2023 8:13:34 AM PDT by Gaffer ( )
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To: Gaffer

Children in the UK vs Poland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwWGUAxXUi4


4 posted on 09/03/2023 8:14:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

“There’s no England now.”

That is a HUNTING song, and to think without a genocide, at this point, there will never be England again.


5 posted on 09/03/2023 8:26:21 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Fiji Hill

Only if you let it.


6 posted on 09/03/2023 8:26:33 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: Fiji Hill
The BBC journalist Laura Trevelyan was so affected by learning that her Trevelyan ancestors owned more than 1,000 slaves on the Caribbean island of Grenada that she gave up her job to become a full-time slavery reparations campaigner and pledged £100,000 to make amends.

The Irish also have reason to hate the Trevelyans, and Laura Trevelyan has also brought up the topic of reparations to the Irish.

The Royal Family also had slaveholding ancestors in the Lascelles family (the Earls of Harewood).

7 posted on 09/03/2023 8:27:35 AM PDT by x
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The truth is that slave trading of blacks would not have happened if blacks themselves had been unwilling to sell their captured enemies into slavery. But they were. Our guilt comes from buying them. Neither guilt outweighs the guilt of the other players. They both share the guilt equally.

The dirty little secret is that it most likely still is happening. We know that many nations are involved in human trafficking, including our nation sadly enough.

8 posted on 09/03/2023 8:30:36 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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I imagine since it was in the Caribbean that she’ll come up with a way to talk the retarded, white privileged yanks into paying the reparations to them.


9 posted on 09/03/2023 8:50:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Chumpkin and Garland must recuse themselves from any legal actions against President Trump.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Europhile-that’s a new one. Throw in ancestors and one is led to believe they were a society of child molesters, a favorite leftist subject. In Rome they made kids sit on pegs so they could boink them in the asshole. Hasn’t happened in a while so why fan the flames?


10 posted on 09/03/2023 8:55:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: x

This would all be so, so useful if it could just be weaponized by more Americans.


11 posted on 09/03/2023 8:56:02 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: dfwgator

Try that again: “That is a *HAUNTING song”


12 posted on 09/03/2023 9:25:48 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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“The truth is that slave trading of blacks would not have happened if blacks themselves had been unwilling to sell their captured enemies into slavery.”

Years ago a black dude on PBS went back to his ruts and found just that. Made him re-think a bit as to where he was directing his anger. I appreciated his honesty - good show to watch.

Even so, the slave trade was still pretty nasty on the part of the whites too...but if people want to be angry about slavery, there are PLENTY of places on this planet, TODAY, where they could make a difference and actually do something about it.


13 posted on 09/03/2023 9:30:15 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

The left loves slavery—as long as they are the masters.


14 posted on 09/03/2023 9:36:34 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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“The left loves slavery—as long as they are the masters.”

Particularly enslaving their ‘enemies’, even when those ‘enemies’ had helped them achieve power (as in ‘useful idiots’)


15 posted on 09/03/2023 9:42:01 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Fiji Hill

“sins of their ancestors”

Well, if it’s OK to pin that on White people in general, let’s return the favor and blame all of Eastern European Jewry for the crimes of the Bolsheviks, animated by their co-ethnic Mr. Marx’s ideas.

They can lay claim to like 100 million deaths and tens of millions in slave camps...some still there.

Think that’ll go over big in Scarsdale?


16 posted on 09/03/2023 10:13:33 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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As one whose grandparents were driven from Ireland due to Britain’s policy of starvation I could use some reparations. I think £500,000 would do nicely.


17 posted on 09/03/2023 10:37:59 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: Fiji Hill

We cannot erase the past. We cannot judge the past with today’s reality.

Now.

Focus on the brazen plan by the International Elites to confiscate all property and enslave the world. That is what the WEF and World Bank and their allies want.

We must stand in their face and tell them, NO.

And tell them where to put their crap and where they can go (back to whence they came).

Not enough people today, can see the reality of what they say. Yes, they are so brazen as to put it right in our face.

Now is the time to Stand together against the most evil of the world.


18 posted on 09/03/2023 10:43:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Fiji Hill

My family was very wealthy and owned land in Virginia and Kentucky around 1650 to nearly 1900. I am assuming they had slaves, I feel no shame. They are not me, and I see most of the hate ramped up against slave owners as the equivalent of the lower class in England. Some employers were good to their employees. Some employees were not free to leave ever, and likely quite a few were generally as happy as the white serfs.

Not every plantation owner was a tyrant. You simply do not get the best work out of people by abusing them. Were there absolute horror masters? Oh yeah, and there is no way to divide them up into OK and Evil at this time.

Let’s just get over it.

Slaves were likely descendants of slaves from Africa anyway. It was a family affair passed on from generation to generation. The Arab and blacks of Africa just exported theirs to different countries. They got on the American continent while white people were still slaves. It is how a lot of whites got to the Americas, by being slaves themselves. Indentured servitude if you would label it correctly. We are indentured no more, and neither are the black people.


19 posted on 09/03/2023 10:46:13 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: BobL

Wait until those famously gorgeous women meet their Muslim masters. Somebody needs to replace the 100’s of thousands being slaughtered in a war that never needed to be fought. WEF and NATO will bring em in by the boatload.


20 posted on 09/03/2023 11:17:55 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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