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Trump vows to end ‘madness’ of EV push
The Hill ^ | 09/05/2023 | LAUREN SFORZA

Posted on 09/05/2023 8:08:59 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: butlerweave
"but can you push them if the battery is dead ? LOL

Not always the case. I read a post this morning that showed when an EV's battery dies and the electronic emergency break is on, the car is almost impossible to move. I guess that's another undocumented feature.

21 posted on 09/05/2023 8:36:13 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
If technological civilization survives, very likely it'll be electric everything. And things have been tending to develop in that direction.

But the Democrats are pushing it in a way that hurts everybody but the elite, and at the same time are deliberately sabotaging the electrical infrastructure.

The globalist ruling class are saving the planet for themselves while preparing to exterminate those not immediately necessary to keep them fed.

22 posted on 09/05/2023 8:39:47 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Consistent with EPA’s traditional approach to establishing pollution standards for power plants under section 111 of the Clean Air Act, the proposed standards are based on technologies such as
carbon capture and sequestration/storage (CCS)
low-GHG hydrogen co-firing”

https://www.epa.gov/stationary-sources-air-pollution/greenhouse-gas-standards-and-guidelines-fossil-fuel-fired-power

“Base load affected facilities that follow the CCS pathway must meet a second phase standard based on 90% capture of CO2, using CCS, by 2035”

“Baseload affected facilities that follow the low-GHG hydrogen pathway must meet a second phase standard based on co-firing 30% low-GHG hydrogen by volume by 2032 and a third phase standard based on cofiring 96% by volume low-GHG hydrogen by 2038”

https://www.epa.gov/system/files/documents/2023-05/FS-OVERVIEW-GHG-for%20Power%20Plants%20FINAL%20CLEAN.pdf

Expect to get zapped by much higher electric bills.


23 posted on 09/05/2023 8:50:14 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: JayGalt
I expect this decision to be short lived.

I do too

24 posted on 09/05/2023 8:57:50 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Jeff Chandler

Reminds me of a June Bug........And it will look just like one on the front grill of a semi.....


25 posted on 09/05/2023 9:00:16 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I think neither industry should be subsidized beyond what hypothetically is needed for balencing competition with other nations.

Just let the market itself decide what is cost effective for ghe consumer.


26 posted on 09/05/2023 9:09:59 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Just too many problems...physically and logisticcally.

Beside fires...if you get in an accident...you put others at risk...

27 posted on 09/05/2023 9:22:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Musk is a logical person....Why Tesla is a nice idea...his space program and “X” are much more important.


28 posted on 09/05/2023 9:24:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The EV argument is just another delaying issue that pushes us away from real and useful developments into the next steps of energy production. The hydrocarbon era need not end today for shortages and we will not likely ever run out of resources but instead run out of production rate. An alternative needs to be developed but it isn't EVs. EVs are just a prolongation of the current addiction to hydrocarbons since most electricity now is produced by natural gas, just another hydrocarbon.

Stupid people.

29 posted on 09/05/2023 9:26:22 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Freeper

Hard to do when the Biden Admin. is supporting the US auto industry 15.5 billion to switch to EV production. 15.5 bil to destroy 20% of the US economy is a communist wet dream.


30 posted on 09/05/2023 9:29:33 AM PDT by suijuris (Once a man learns to see he finds himself alone in the world with nothing but folly.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’m Ok with people buying EVs. It’s their money and their headaches afterwards.

Where I’m anti-Ev, is when the government gets involved in trying to dictate or mandate that people get EVs, while also trying to kill ICE vehicles and the oil industry.

Let the people choose. and learn from their mistakes.


31 posted on 09/05/2023 9:32:38 AM PDT by adorno
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“vowing to end the “madness”...

Not unless he has the absolute majority of both houses and his own party won’t fold like a lawn chair. I don’t see this happening with their history of cowardice.

wy69


32 posted on 09/05/2023 9:49:54 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Dutch Boy

“I read a post this morning that showed when an EV’s battery dies and the electronic emergency break is on, the car is almost impossible to move. I guess that’s another undocumented feature.”

Two batteries. One for power to the wheeled and a 12v for systems like the parking brake. Emergency brake is a misnomer.

The 12v can be jumped or charged as with any car.


33 posted on 09/05/2023 10:03:11 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: qaz123

“If I’m not mistaken, one of Pres Trump’s main points with EVs and other items for purchase are the tax breaks/incentives that go along with them.”

As a long time real estate developer in NY/NJ, Trump probably benefited from tax breaks and other government incentives on many occasions.


34 posted on 09/05/2023 10:20:25 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: ChicagoConservative27
“I discovered that Tesla’s battery swap station was not in fact being made available to owners who regularly drove between California’s two largest cities,” Niedermeyer wrote in a May 2022 exposé for Slate. “Instead, the company was running diesel generators to power additional Superchargers (the kind that take 30 to 60 minutes to recharge a battery) to handle the holiday rush, their exhaust mingling with the unmistakable smell of bulls—t.”

https://www.sfgate.com/centralcoast/article/tesla-interstate-5-supercharger-power-plant-18343119.php

35 posted on 09/05/2023 10:35:48 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; lightman

......Former President Trump is vowing to end the “madness” of the Biden administration’s push for electric vehicles........

FINALY a politician with sense!!

BAN EVs! NO 15-minute cities, and NO to other biden/obama plans to destroy our freedom because of “climate change”!!!!


36 posted on 09/05/2023 11:13:18 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Bayard
Just let the market itself decide what is cost effective for ghe consumer.

Not just cost effective, but what the consumer is willing to put up with. Do they want to sit somewhere for a couple of hours during a day-long trip to re-charge? Etc.

37 posted on 09/05/2023 11:31:19 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: norcal joe

Time is money so its the same thing.

People who don’t value their time will be taken advantage of no matter what.


38 posted on 09/05/2023 12:03:14 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: lonestar67

EV makes sense, sorta, in dense metro areas. Like downtown. Anywhere else it is another Obama scam, like Solyndra.

Until batteries have the energy density of gasoline and last as long as a gas tank, they = bad tech. Virtue signaling and money laundering by politicos.


39 posted on 09/05/2023 12:08:01 PM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Labyrinthos

As a long time real estate developer in NY/NJ, Trump probably benefited from tax breaks and other government incentives on many occasions.

You are 100% correct. He even admitted it while on a debate stage with Clinton.

But, his tax breaks are no different than the ones that Bezos and all the rest receive when they want to build something. Do I agree with the process? No I do not.

However, those tax breaks, like say one for a hotel of his, leads to tax revenue and jobs for folks in the area. Are they always worth it? No. But, sometimes yes.

But, giving some liberal, urban dwelling hipster a tax break at our expense doesn’t create anything long term. Nor does it do anything given that the cars are being made in a foreign country. Specifically China. Our adversary. A place where, in order for Tesla and GM to have manufacturing there, the technology has to be accessible to the Chinese government and their engineers. So, pretty soon, the USA will have Chinese made vehicles rolling the streets, being made by and for the Chinese government.


40 posted on 09/05/2023 12:31:17 PM PDT by qaz123
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