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FAA orders Musk's SpaceX to take 63 corrective actions on Starship, keeps rocket grounded
CNBC ^ | 9/8/23 | Lora Kolodny

Posted on 09/08/2023 8:35:40 AM PDT by CFW

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To: NorthMountain

The outcome wasn’t a failure. It was a test flight which didn’t even plan for anything after takeoff. Then again, that might be why FAA disagrees with SpaceX about safety; they may not be so cavalier about a massive explosion.


21 posted on 09/08/2023 8:44:53 AM PDT by dangus
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To: butlerweave

>so the FAA knows more about Starship than SpaceX ?<

An old industry joke....not really:

An FAA fed is a disgruntled pilot who couldn’t get a real job in aviation.

EC


23 posted on 09/08/2023 8:45:07 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: CFW

The “experts” are now telling SpaceX how to build a booster.

Next up, NASA is going to give guidelines for “rapid project development” along with “how to eliminate cost overruns”.


24 posted on 09/08/2023 8:45:53 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: CodeToad
How did FR react when the FAA grounded 737-MAX?

It was with approval.

But Boeing is part of the hated "military industrial complex", so verbally defecating on Boeing is OK.

SpaceX is an all-holy private company, so any government action unfavorable to it is demonic. (Never mind all the USAF/USSF and NRO launches ...)

There's a lot of hypocrisy on this forum.

25 posted on 09/08/2023 8:46:23 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CodeToad

>> Nope. The FAA is run by non-pilots and non-engineers. <<

Back in the day, the FAA used to be 100% former Air Force/Air Corps/Navy folk. Served your time at a Korean War radar installation? Welcome to the FAA, Joe!


26 posted on 09/08/2023 8:47:26 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NorthMountain

>> How did FR react when the FAA grounded 737-MAX? <<

Hundreds of people died. SpaceX’s explosion was the conclusion to a successful test flight.


27 posted on 09/08/2023 8:48:32 AM PDT by dangus
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To: CFW

Government knows best and is always there to help.


28 posted on 09/08/2023 8:48:39 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: dangus
I never said the April test flight was a "failure".

True facts:

1) It shredded the launch pad. Debris from the launch pad was widely scattered.

2) Some engines failed to ignite. Others failed to operate during the flight.

3) It was terminated by the mission controllers, resulting in a huge explosion.

To suggest that it did not raise legitimate safety considerations is absurd.

29 posted on 09/08/2023 8:50:18 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CFW

Yeah, the Biden/Obama cadre has weaponized the entire gov’t.

The craft “exploded in flight” because it had to be blown up when the staging failed.


30 posted on 09/08/2023 8:52:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: CFW

The “deep state” is coming after Musk from all sides. “

Yes they are, one thing about Biden he has always used whatever government power he has to punish and destroy anyone who gets in his way or even disagrees with him, now he has the Power of the presidency.


31 posted on 09/08/2023 8:53:18 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: CFW; Chode; SkyDancer; Salamander; Carriage Hill; Lockbox; MtnClimber; nascarnation; Squantos; ...

They’re stalling SpaceX to let nasa get caught up with Him. He’s making them look bad. Because they are...

SpaceX hasn’t killed 3 Astronauts like nasa did in Apollo 1.


32 posted on 09/08/2023 8:53:58 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: butlerweave

I SEEM TO REMEMBER THE CHALLENGER EXPLODING


33 posted on 09/08/2023 8:56:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: butlerweave

Last I heard-—Musk can launch from a large offshore drilling style platform


34 posted on 09/08/2023 8:58:11 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

I seem to remember the Space Shuttle being grounded for years as a result of the Challenger explosion.


35 posted on 09/08/2023 8:58:32 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CFW

The FAA gets twitchy when your stuff blows up.


36 posted on 09/08/2023 8:58:46 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Sacajaweau; CFW
Elon will reply...You missed 5 additional items...call me...

From my own personal experience with federal regulators, most of these deficiencies were identified by SpaceX personnel.

And then the FAA found a few things that may or may not be deficiencies just so they look like they are competent and to remind SpaceX who is really in charge.

37 posted on 09/08/2023 9:00:28 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: NorthMountain

“Considering the outcome of the first Super Heavy flight, and without knowing the nature of the 63 corrective actions, I recommend acquiring a little more knowledge before condeming this as mere “deep state” interference.”


Considering the actions of the governmental agencies and the left’s obvious bias and hatred of Musk, I’ll keep with my default position that any action by the governmental agencies against Musk is political. When it comes to trust, they have a long way to go to dig themselves out of the hole they have dug for themselves.


38 posted on 09/08/2023 9:01:31 AM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: discostu
The FAA gets twitchy when your stuff blows up.

With Falcon-9/Falcon Heavy, SpaceX is running the most aggressive optempo in the history of space flight. They're on track for 100 launches this year.

What does the FAA have to say about Falcon? "Go".

39 posted on 09/08/2023 9:01:44 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CFW

A well formed opinion is based on facts.


40 posted on 09/08/2023 9:02:54 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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