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1 posted on 09/13/2023 10:22:23 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

At least they found out.


2 posted on 09/13/2023 10:23:31 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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Thank you Obama


3 posted on 09/13/2023 10:26:01 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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I have a mental vision of haze gray and underway up a Detroit boulevard here. Could be a little tough to maneuver but the liberty would be awesome.


4 posted on 09/13/2023 10:28:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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I served a bit on the USS Coral Sea (CV-43) and had a chance while teaching up at one of the shipyards to tour one of these littoral ships in Wisconsin. I recall the multi-feet thick doors in rudder area on the Coral Sea versus the paper thin construction of the littoral ship. Just not comparable. These littoral ships were not built to even withstand a 50 caliber bullet.


5 posted on 09/13/2023 10:29:47 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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"Requirements Compatibility Analysis" is an engineering assessment to determine whether the design requirements in the A, B, and C level specifications are compatible or whether they conflict with each other.

Too often, political concerns override physics and the state of the art.

6 posted on 09/13/2023 10:30:43 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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Most likely, some well-connected shlubs made big money on a ship the Navy never wanted or needed. Zumwalt, in the 70’s was big on the “high/low mix” and look where it left us.


7 posted on 09/13/2023 10:31:23 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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Maybe the people making stupid Navy decisions got their jobs based on sexual kink, color, or ‘daddy’ pull... rather than on being capable. Like most of DC...


8 posted on 09/13/2023 10:32:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Our side must NOT work with democrats. Or we'll Bud Light them...)
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Zumwalt Destroyers — swell idea but cost too much, could not perform it’s primary mission, was a failed program.

LCS— not needed, hard to maintain, pointless ship, failed program.

Meanwhile, over on the Air Force side, the USAF would dearly love to cancel the A-10 because it is a proven workhorse, marvelous in its critical role, and loved by the Army. The air force hasn’t managed to kill it yet but they sure want to.

We think we are militarily strong, but I have my doubts.


9 posted on 09/13/2023 10:32:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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Some rich cats are going to picking these ships up for song and make them into Yachts.


10 posted on 09/13/2023 10:36:20 AM PDT by Rappini ("No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation" MacArthr)
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Who were the admirals and politicians pushing to build these aluminum can "littoral ships"??

In the Foreword to a 65-page 2014 report, "The Littoral Combat Ship: How Got Here, and Why" by Robert O. Work, Robert C. (Barney) Rubel (Dean, Center for Naval Warfare Studies) stated: "[E]very Chief of Naval Operations since Admiral Vern Clark has supported the program."

11 posted on 09/13/2023 10:39:57 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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All of the LCS’s should have a new class designation.

The OBAMA/BIDEN class. They were responsible, they own this disaster, and the mention of every one of these ships should bring up the Administration and decisions that made them.


14 posted on 09/13/2023 10:43:16 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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They should have gone with the Army's EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle


15 posted on 09/13/2023 10:43:30 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." - Kahlil Gibran)
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Why the Navy keeps pouring money and manpower into these ships remains an open question.


To buoy the ship count, else Congress would have a fit.


17 posted on 09/13/2023 10:44:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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t was used primarily for intercepting drug traffickers.

Why couldn't they give it to the Coast Guard and use it for the same purpose?

19 posted on 09/13/2023 10:46:43 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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While the Pentagon is never held accountable or the Senate Armed Services Committee. The taxpayer be damned.
20 posted on 09/13/2023 10:47:30 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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bkmk


23 posted on 09/13/2023 10:55:35 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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The amazing part is no shipbuilder will be held accountable and no admiral will lose a star. It would be better to put the money in a pile and light it on fire.


24 posted on 09/13/2023 11:00:09 AM PDT by steel_resolve (The Sleeper Must Awaken. )
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It’s not about national defense.
It’s all about contract awards, kickbacks, and campaign contributions.


25 posted on 09/13/2023 11:03:40 AM PDT by sjmjax
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They violate all standards of damage control including a tiny crew that would be unable to do the physical work. They carry less firepower than a standard battle tank and would be in serious danger from a duel with a tank sitting on the beach. We would literally be better off with a Fletcher Class destroyer with it’s depth charges, 5” and 40mm guns and torpedoes from WWII than these things, especially for the interdiction mission.

They call it a Littoral “Combat” Ship. But what is it going to combat? Up close to the beach it could be slaughtered by an anti-tank missile or a tank. At sea? It could be defeated by everything. And it is super vulnerable to missiles.


26 posted on 09/13/2023 11:05:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Why wouldn’t the coast guard want these?


33 posted on 09/13/2023 11:23:56 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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