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To: GBA
So you say. I’m not really seeing that very much when I look at the coverage now though, not like in the beginning anyway.

What media are you watching/listening to? US media including Faux are still solidly behind Ukraine and the need to keep funding them. You will see it amped up soon as Congress is given a supplemental aid package for Ukraine. Although a slim majority of Reps in the House are balking about more unconditional aid for Ukraine, the votes exist for another big aid package for Ukraine. The WH would like to bundle it with aid for Israel and Maui. And they may toss in some additional funding for the Southern border. They are going to go big, some say over $100 billion for Ukraine, enough to keep it off the the table until after the 2024 election.

Not much about the war, though. For that, you have to look at British news coverage, the bloggers who writes about it and the videos posted on X/Twitter, YouTube, etc.

I watch UK, French, and German news every day. Sky News, the BBC, France 24, and ARD are still pro-war. They show the damage being inflicted on Ukrainian civilians. They cover the war more than US media, but it is still sympathetic. Social media is the only place where you can see criticism of the war. Col MacGregor is the most notable critic. So is Larry Johnson of GP.

There is growing political opposition in Europe to the war with virtually all of it coming from the Right. Afd is notable in that regard. They are reflecting growing public opposition to prolonging this proxy war. Increased energy and food costs with the loss of Russian supply has a way of focusing one's attention on the war. And Ukraine's lack of battlefield success arouses the smell of defeat and futility. In Europe there is a growing awareness that the US is leading them over a cliff. They are looking for an exit.

When the Russians invaded, everyone covered it. But now? To a casual observer, nothing seems to be happening and the short attention span American audience has moved on.

Most Americans are ill-informed about the war. They are easy to manipulate. Europeans are a different story. And they see the 7 to 10 million Ukrainian refugees who have flooded their countries enjoying better benefits than they do. Poland will be cutting off benefits next year. Most of the refugees have no desire to return home to what was one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe before the war. It is far worse now.

If there were American troops there, the media would have a running death count of American casualties gleefully updated each night and we’d hear about that constantly.

Disagree. The Dems are in the WH. They would be reporting on the heroism of Americans defending democracy against Satan, aka as Russia. If American troops really were in Ukraine fighting Russians, it would be covered wall to wall with the possibility of a nuclear war that would essentially destroy the global economy and most assuredly the US and Russia. No one wins a nuclear war.

But there are no American troops there, so there’s nothing to report.

Au contraire. There is plenty to report, but none of it good for the Biden regime. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. And since they share a 1,500 mile border, neither side is going away. Russia is not going to permit Ukraine to join NATO. And it is doubtful that Hungary, Turkey, or the Czech Republic would vote for their admission in any event.

If we had a MSM that did its job, the American people would force its political leadership to end this conflict, which can only go on with our aid. We have the leverage to end it. That is why there is nothing to report. Hundreds of billions down the toilet with massive death and destruction. Now that is a real story.

Add in a compromised President Biden recipient of bribes from Ukraine and throw in a coked up son screwing prostitutes and making deals with corrupt oligarchs. Substitute the name Trump for Biden in the same exact circumstances and then imagine how that would be covered by the MSM.

And now, it’s Israel! But that coverage, too, will only last for a short while and then the American audience and the media will move on.

The MSM is very sympathetic to Israel now. Give it a few days to a week or so to go negative as the pictures and videos of a destroyed Gaza go viral. The MSM will be calling for Israel to stop its "disproportionate" response. Gaza and the Palestinians will be the victims. And it will be covered extensively by the world media, which generally hates Israel.

43 posted on 10/10/2023 4:44:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Apparently, we both agree and disagree about many things concerning the media, Ukraine, Russia and Israel.

Fwiw, I grew up during the time when the Soviet Union was the evil empire and their marxist communism was Satan’s poisonous religion for the world, which the Soviets spread both near and far and wide and at the point of a gun whenever necessary. And America was the main country that fought to stop them and their spreading their ideology throughout the world.

My first real job/career was as a military contractor thanks to Ronald Reagan’s rebuilding our military after Carter. My best time of life so far was living in Germany and working at one of the Air Force bases there in support of avionics we had in the F-16.

It was the time when East Germany was enemy territory, the Soviets were still large and in charge and the base was “attacked” many times a week by various NATO air forces mimicking the Soviets. It was very real to me.

Fast forward to now and, given the past and current the Russian invasion, I’m predictably going to be on Ukraine’s side and vary wary of Putin and whatever he’s doing.

And whatever happens next and in the near future there? Well, we’ll just have to wait and see.

44 posted on 10/10/2023 6:29:19 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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