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Army: Now that you ask, we really don't know where all of our weapons are
HOTAIR ^ | 10/12/2023 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 10/12/2023 9:54:41 PM PDT by bitt

It’s well known that the United States Army and Marines maintain a significant stockpile of used, damaged, or older models of weapons. Some are damaged and waiting to be safely salvaged, but many of them are still functional, requiring a bit of cleaning or maintenance. Some may be perfectly fine, but they’ve been replaced by newer models. Now that our allies in Israel are rushing to outfit an expanded military force to take on Hamas and their civilians are looking for hardware also, someone finally thought to ask the army about those stockpiles and how we could ship out the usable equipment to help our friends. But they answer they received from Army Undersecretary Gabe Camarillo on Tuesday basically amounted to, ‘Weapons? Did you say weapons? Let’s see… where did we put those…’ (Government Executive)

The U.S. Army has warehouses packed with weapons its soldiers no longer need. But the service doesn’t know where they all are, nor what condition they’re in.

Now, amid increased demand from U.S. allies and partners, Army leaders are pushing for an updated database of those stored weapons.

“Sometimes we don’t really know where all of our excess equipment is,” Army Undersecretary Gabe Camarillo said Tuesday at the Association of the U.S. Army annual conference in Washington. “We have a lot of it, and it’s accumulated over time.”

We’re not talking about the big-ticket military equipment here. When it comes to our most advanced fighter jets, submarines, long-range precision missiles and ICBMS, we’re pretty good about keeping track of those. But the stockpiles in question involve more conventional rifles, sidearms, ammunition, and maybe some shoulder-fired rockets. They get shuffled around a lot in various warehouses across the country and around the world. And we obviously don’t know precisely where some of them are in case they need to be shipped out or, in some cases, if we even still have them. And that’s a problem.

This is an issue that won’t be resolved overnight because it’s been building for so many decades. And the main reason for that is the fact that our military is so massive and has a gigantic budget. The Pentagon orders tons of material each year that is very likely perceived to be necessary. Who is responsible for periodically reviewing and evaluating all of this equipment. At least in some cases, I would guess that the answer is nobody. It’s all “on the books” someplace, but the physical reality can be scattered to the wind.

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KEYWORDS: army; camarillo; lost; weapons
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1 posted on 10/12/2023 9:54:41 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 10/12/2023 9:54:55 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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Acting dumb, like they don’t know where they are. They know.


3 posted on 10/12/2023 9:58:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: bitt

How many have been turned over to the jihadists who sneaked across the border under Dementia Joe’s averted eyes?


4 posted on 10/12/2023 10:06:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They know.

For each of those weapons is a Staff NCO who knows by serial number exactly where it is.

For every round of ammunition there is a Staff NCO who knows by lot number and count where every round is.

The “Magnificent Millie” trained officer corps may well be as incompetent and ignorant as the article and the Undersecretary claim, but there is a professional soldier that knows.

However, it is within the realm of possibility that some of the weapons and ammunition are not exactly in the Army’s inventory system. IYKWIMAITYD.

5 posted on 10/12/2023 10:13:25 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous w)
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To: bitt

They go to the inner cities and maybe our new invading army.


6 posted on 10/12/2023 10:16:03 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: bitt

Jim aNd Hunter know where Chomo Joe sold them.


7 posted on 10/12/2023 10:37:41 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: bitt

Well, the government bugged the men’s room in the local disco lounge
To keep the boys from sellin’ all the weapons they could scrounge


8 posted on 10/12/2023 10:44:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

If you go over to the Air Force and ask for a weapon/bomb/missile inventory on any base...it’s one-hundred percent accurate. So I don’t buy this story unless they just hand artillery shells without any control.


9 posted on 10/12/2023 11:06:37 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Secret Agent Man

And they think we’re stupid. Talk about projection!


10 posted on 10/12/2023 11:08:40 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: TigersEye

Would eyed pistol wavers, that ain’t afraid to die...

Don Henley was the man!

We can do the innuendo, is the head yet...


11 posted on 10/13/2023 12:08:59 AM PDT by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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To: skepsel

Damned auto-correct, wild eyed, not would eyed.

Must have thought it was joke about the girl with the wooden leg...


12 posted on 10/13/2023 12:11:41 AM PDT by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
"For each of those weapons is a Staff NCO who knows by serial number exactly where it is."

I cannot speak for the Army but the Navy and Marine Corps has a record of every firearm and its location. The list of firearms is kept in Crane Indiana (the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane). You have 48 hours to report to "Crane" when a weapon goes missing.

In the 1980s I was the Midshipman at the Naval Academy responsible for compiling the master report to be submitted to Crane. The weapons were M-1s. The rifles were serviceable (only the firing pins had been removed), but had stopped being front line weapons for over 20 years. At the end of one semester two rifles came up missing. They were found in about 12 hours. The rifles had been stored months earlier in a company office, because the midshipmen had left early.

I also remember that after Desert Storm a lot of captured weapons came back to the US and the Marine Corps was having a devil of a time compiling a master list for Crane.

13 posted on 10/13/2023 12:57:06 AM PDT by fini
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To: bitt

For far too long the bureaucrats have been trusted to do their jobs but as conservatives have long suspected we are learning that they are all corrupt, inept idiots.


14 posted on 10/13/2023 2:17:57 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Check the HUGE CIA warehouses in San Antonio. That is where a lot of the government’s old weapons go to wait for America’s next foreign adventure.


15 posted on 10/13/2023 2:42:54 AM PDT by MMusson
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To: pepsionice

Where are the $87 Billion weapons we abandoned in Afghanistan?


16 posted on 10/13/2023 2:45:03 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...................."Who is Ray Epps?" should be overstamped on every piece of currency.)
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To: bitt

Under Trump. Army Undersecretary “looking for our guns” Gabe Camarillo would be now looking for a new job.

Please tell me that they are NOT armng BLM and Antifa.


17 posted on 10/13/2023 3:15:23 AM PDT by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: bitt

Like the meme says, “I can’t ‘sell back’ my guns to the government. They couldn’t pass a back-ground check”.


18 posted on 10/13/2023 3:23:52 AM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: fini
I also remember that after Desert Storm a lot of captured weapons came back to the US and the Marine Corps was having a devil of a time compiling a master list for Crane.

YEP!

Not to mention, in the Marine Corps, one wrong digit on an 80-column card order can get you a visit from NCIS!! I KNOW! When you accidentally try to order ten M16s while serving with a combat service detachment in the Phillippines, THEY WILL ASK QUESTIONS!!
19 posted on 10/13/2023 3:49:48 AM PDT by ExTxMarine
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To: MMusson

Check Biden’s garage, Center, and basement!


20 posted on 10/13/2023 3:53:12 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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