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'Stunned': OPEC urges members to block action on fossil fuels at COP28
France24 ^ | December 9, 2023

Posted on 12/09/2023 5:22:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

French Energy Minister Agnes Pannier-Runacher said Saturday she was "stunned" after the oil cartel OPEC urged its members to thwart any deal targeting fossil fuels at the COP28 conference.

ADVERTISING "I am stunned by these statements from OPEC+. And I am angry," she said from the climate conference in Dubai, adding that "OPEC+'s position endangers the most vulnerable countries and the poorest populations who are the first victims of this situation".

The minister said she was "counting on the presidency of the COP not to be influenced by these declarations, and to reach an agreement which affirms a clear objective of phasing out fossil fuels".

OPEC+ Secretary General Haitham Al Ghais sent a letter to the group's 13 members and 10 Russian-led allies this week.

The letter has drawn anger from activists and the High Ambition Coalition, a broad group of nations ranging from Barbados to France, Kenya and Pacific island states.

Spain's ecology transition minister Teresa Ribera called the move "disgusting".

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climate; cop28; energy; globalwarming; hoax; oil; opec; propaganda; putinistas; socialism
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1 posted on 12/09/2023 5:22:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

OPEC MUST demand an end to fear mongering tyrannies that practice fraud about the environment. There is no evidence that fossil fuels are a threat to the environment.


2 posted on 12/09/2023 5:27:00 AM PST by Lou Foxwell (It takes a uniquely Marxist mind to deny Trump's call to patriotism.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wwe’re in bed with the muzzies?


3 posted on 12/09/2023 5:27:30 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
French Energy Minister Agnes Pannier-Runacher said “I am stunned by these statements from OPEC+. And I am angry,”

You should protest by taking a ship from Dubai to Marseilles and a horse from Marseilles to Paris. Maybe after 2 or 3 weeks trip you won't be so angry.

4 posted on 12/09/2023 5:30:39 AM PST by Jolla
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is amazingly funny!

Reeks of a Monty Python skit.


5 posted on 12/09/2023 5:32:59 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Right away you know you’re going to get leftist spin because of the phrase “fossil fuel.”


6 posted on 12/09/2023 5:36:38 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
French Energy Minister Agnes Pannier-Runacher...

Spain's ecology transition minister Teresa Ribera...

Problem seems to be the people who gave political power to such angry collectivist idiots.

7 posted on 12/09/2023 5:41:10 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

OPEC is protecting their financial interests? Who would have thought that could happen?


8 posted on 12/09/2023 5:44:19 AM PST by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
key word "activists"

Natural gas is the way to go...not windmills and solar...

9 posted on 12/09/2023 5:44:43 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Those most vulnerable countries and poorest populations are probably the ones that need cheap energy (oil) the most.


10 posted on 12/09/2023 5:45:02 AM PST by FreedomForce
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The world has gone mad! Woke bureaucrats and oligarchs who fly around in their private jets, maintain multiple homes and have private security (with guns) - these people use 1000x the fossil fuel that the average person uses. They would have us peons living in tepees, eating bugs and defenseless while they continue to fly around in their private jets, maintain multiple homes/mansions, eat steak and have private security.

We should disconnect from all foreign entanglements - IMHO!!

In his Farewell Address, Washington warned against the peril of foreign entanglements. He understood the necessity of certain alliances in dire emergencies, but his general view of foreign policy encapsulates a wisdom that has been forgotten by today's generation of political leaders. Excerpt from Washington's famous address:

Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. ... In the execution of such a plan nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded, and that in place of them just and amicable feelings toward all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. So, likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld; and it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country without odium, sometimes even with popularity, gilding with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation. Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial, else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. ... Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. But even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand, neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of commerce, but forcing nothing; establishing with powers so disposed, in order to give trade a stable course, to define the rights of our merchants, and to enable the Government to support them, conventional rules of intercourse, the best that present circumstances and mutual opinion will permit, but temporary and liable to be from time to time abandoned or varied as experience and circumstances shall dictate; constantly keeping in view that it is folly in one nation to look for disinterested favors from another; that it must pay with a portion of its independence for whatever it may accept under that character; that by such acceptance it may place itself in the condition of having given equivalents for nominal favors, and yet being reproached with ingratitude for not giving more. There can be no greater error than to expect or calculate upon real favors from nation to nation. It is an illusion which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard.

11 posted on 12/09/2023 5:45:15 AM PST by JesusIsLord ( )
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It’s what we should be doing, too. Look at the mess they’ve created...and will continue...unless we say “stop”.


12 posted on 12/09/2023 5:46:06 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Arabs aren’t rushing out to commit financial suicide, OMG, the inhumanity!


13 posted on 12/09/2023 5:46:51 AM PST by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I saw it coming... any “statesman” that didn’t is idiotic. U.S special envoys included...


14 posted on 12/09/2023 5:49:02 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Awwww... did someone challenge the environazi’s beliefs? Did it traumatize them to hear an opposing view? Was their inner child injured when someone said no? Did the walk away alone and sad when they realized they had no real power or authority, did it make them feel small and unimportant?

Good.


15 posted on 12/09/2023 5:50:52 AM PST by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
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This has never been about the climate. Its only about money.

Now there are two powerful international cartels vying for the money.

It's the OPEC cartel verse the clean energy, wind, solar cartel.

The OPEC cartel charge us outrageous prices but leaves us alone for the most part. Their base model is profit.

The clean energy, wind, solar cartel charge us outrageous prices for unicorn poop and want to control EVERY aspect of our lives even what we eat. Their base model is totalitarian control.

I'll go with the OPEC model.

16 posted on 12/09/2023 5:58:32 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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Make it CHEAPER !!!!!


17 posted on 12/09/2023 6:00:40 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Wwe’re in bed with the muzzies?”

Watch your poop chute.


18 posted on 12/09/2023 6:03:59 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"French Energy Minister Agnes Pannier-Runacher said Saturday she was "stunned"


19 posted on 12/09/2023 6:11:34 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

[[”I am stunned by these statements from OPEC+. And I am angry,” she said]]

Nothing more dangerous than an angry liberal who rages that people aren’t obeying her!


20 posted on 12/09/2023 6:27:20 AM PST by Bob434
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