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To: Mariner

Biden got blamed for the disaster in Afghanistan.

The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine. With that, the democrats will be pointing out all through the 2024 election cycle that, it’s the republicans who are to blame for Ukraine becoming part of Russia again.

IOW, republicans will have a very poor election cycle.

Right or wrong, republicans can’t win with Ukraine being abandoned.


5 posted on 12/09/2023 4:44:55 PM PST by adorno (CCH)
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To: adorno

I’ve supported funding for Ukraine since the beginning of the war. But OUR border is beyond, out of control. We need to secure our border before we secure other borders.


8 posted on 12/09/2023 4:47:48 PM PST by 11th_VA (<>< Good News: Barbarians at not at the gate; Bad News: They’re in the city)
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To: adorno

“Right or wrong, republicans can’t win with Ukraine being abandoned.”

You’d like people to believe that.

But it’s bullshit.


10 posted on 12/09/2023 4:49:00 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: adorno

Most Americans DGAF about Ukraine. Wine moms who feel sorry for whoremonger cokehead Hunter do.


12 posted on 12/09/2023 4:50:22 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: adorno
Give at least as much support to our border. Not too difficult for the electorate to understand.
13 posted on 12/09/2023 4:51:05 PM PST by fhayek
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To: adorno

Only seeing the downside.

Rats are now viewed as totally on the side of mass illegal immigration, even to the detriment of the world, not just the US.

There is only one ethnic group in this country even vaguely on the side of illegal immigration: hispanics themselves, because they want more of their people here to aid in the takeover and mass looting of the gringos. White people and black people are totally against it. Asians similar but of course they’re OK with more Asians.

Republicans will have resounding victories if they get the changes they are now holding out for and if they don’t, they can pummel the Rats with it for the next 11 months.


15 posted on 12/09/2023 4:52:09 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: adorno

Not necessarily. Tucker interviewed Trumps military advisor who told him we’d already given Ukraine so many of our weapons, we can’t defend ourselves.

Publicizing that interview and reporting the situation by honest media, if any, should keep public image under control.

Interview is still on Rumble somewhere, I think.


23 posted on 12/09/2023 5:00:03 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: adorno

Republicans can’t win with the Party controlling the voting process.


24 posted on 12/09/2023 5:00:22 PM PST by arthurus ( covfefe remiz)
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To: adorno
IOW, republicans will have a very poor election cycle.

If they do, it sure as hell won't because of Ukraine. 70% of the country couldn't give a hoot about Ukraine. 20% wishes we had never meddled in Ukraine and squashed proposed peace deals. And, the other 10% are neocons and political elite profiting off the war that the masses despise.

26 posted on 12/09/2023 5:03:40 PM PST by Kazan
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To: adorno
"The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine."

Nope. Americans have finally started to comprehend scale of the evil done by the reptiles that rule them. Everything Biden touches turns to sh*t and this won't be any different.

27 posted on 12/09/2023 5:04:41 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: adorno

It’s impossible to have an intelligent conversation with the anti Ukraine zealots here.

And I agree with you the media will blame Republicans.

However, the Republicans have an awfully good argument that all Biden has to do is have some control on the border. Democrats will lose on that issue.

The problem is democrats don’t care, they are scumbags. They will lose Europe rather than stop their invasion of our Southern border.


31 posted on 12/09/2023 5:12:57 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: adorno

If we give them money, we need to make sure they are using it for defense. They are corrupt.


42 posted on 12/09/2023 5:42:05 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (✡️✝️🔯)
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To: adorno

[Biden got blamed for the disaster in Afghanistan. The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine. With that, the democrats will be pointing out all through the 2024 election cycle that, it’s the republicans who are to blame for Ukraine becoming part of Russia again.

IOW, republicans will have a very poor election cycle.

Right or wrong, republicans can’t win with Ukraine being abandoned.]


GOP logic: Ukraine is worth losing so long as we get Roe v Wade reinstituted after Biden appoints the next 2 justices, or adds 4 judges.


44 posted on 12/09/2023 5:50:00 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: adorno

The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine.

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While I could certainly be wrong about this, I don’t see Russia “taking over Ukraine”. The Russians will be fortunate to hold onto what they have.


45 posted on 12/09/2023 5:51:48 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: adorno
“Right or wrong, republicans can’t win with Ukraine being abandoned.”

Americans need to be reminded every day Ukraine was Biden’s mess.


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46 posted on 12/09/2023 5:53:27 PM PST by CapandBall
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To: adorno

“Biden got blamed for the disaster in Afghanistan.

The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine”

We have a very short attention span. Biden’s screw up in leaving Afghanistan was forgotten a long time ago, Ukraine is Biden’s war. We never had a vital national security interest there and Biden poking the Russian bear about moving next door to it by entertaining Zelensky’s desire to join NATO pushed Russia over the line. That war will be forgotten too within months of negotiating a loss of Eastern Ukraine to Russia.
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48 posted on 12/09/2023 6:06:17 PM PST by chuckee
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To: adorno

Americans care most about what is Happening HERE.


52 posted on 12/09/2023 6:18:35 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: adorno

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. It’s easy to mistake actual avid support across the US for the UKR money sinkhole being real if you just look at the stuff posted here relentlessly by a very few people.

In my daily life, I don’t hear anybody talking about how we need to be saving Ukraine, frankly.


62 posted on 12/09/2023 10:33:35 PM PST by Gaffer
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