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JetBlue plane's tail struck runway of Colorado airport as captain took off quickly to avoid HEAD-ON collision with incoming jet in latest horror near-miss over American skies
DAILY MAIL ^ | 14 December 2023 | RACHEL BOWMAN

Posted on 12/14/2023 10:23:23 AM PST by george76

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To: george76

Freepers get to the heart of the problem right away: affirmative action hiring.


21 posted on 12/14/2023 10:33:39 AM PST by I want the USA back (Democracy dies when you take away from those who work and give to those who won't. Khrushchev.)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
I haven’t flown in about 20 years and have no plans to. This sort of thing only reinforces that decision.

The most dangerous part of a flight is the drive to and from the airport. So if you drive somewhere instead of flying you're at much greater risk of being killed in an accident.

22 posted on 12/14/2023 10:34:05 AM PST by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: george76

Aircraft near-misses are on the rise in the US, amid a severe air traffic controller staffing shortage that controllers say is pushing them to the brink physically and mentally.


https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-faa-hires-1500-air-traffic-controllers-staffing-challenges-remain-2023-08-24/

The FAA closed its academy for six months in 2020 due to COVID-19 and paused on-the-job training at facilities for almost two years, the agency said.

Of the FAA’s total 13,300 controllers, 26% are trainees, the report said.


23 posted on 12/14/2023 10:35:39 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: 9422WMR

Just a high rate of ascent


24 posted on 12/14/2023 10:36:14 AM PST by bigbob
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To: george76

This incident occurred in November. The airfield does not have a control tower.


25 posted on 12/14/2023 10:37:13 AM PST by Ben Dover (Terrorism is a cancer that can only be cured with massive doses of radiation.)
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To: dfwgator

According to the late George Carlin, they should have been called “near hits”. His lampooning of the airline industry was hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46fOtLfYC4Q


26 posted on 12/14/2023 10:37:26 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: george76

It is only a matter of time.

One of the things that was great about America, and people as far back as Tocqueville recognized it-things WORKED in America. You turn on a faucet? Clean, drinkable water almost always came out, etc.

I have noticed in the last few years particularly, is that things are starting NOT to work. Like the military. And schools.

And Air Traffic Control is going to be one of those things.


27 posted on 12/14/2023 10:37:58 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: dfwgator
That’s what happened in Tenerife in 1977, still the largest death toll from a plane crash ever.

Also JAL flight 123 crashed killing 520 as a result of faulty repairs made after a tail strike that occurred seven years before.

28 posted on 12/14/2023 10:38:17 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: george76

Whose mistake? Jet Blue, king air, or controller?


29 posted on 12/14/2023 10:39:03 AM PST by MortMan (I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.)
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To: george76
The National Transportation Safety Board said on January 22, 2022, at the Yampa Valley Regional Airport at JetBlue Airbus A320 was taking off on the same runway as a Beechcraft King Air 350 was about five miles away from landing on.

Almost a year for this report to come out?

30 posted on 12/14/2023 10:39:20 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: I want the USA back

“Freepers get to the heart of the problem right away: affirmative action hiring”

As posted above, there are no controllers at Yampa Valley/Hayden.

The problem is lack of coordination between the pilots, mainly the JetBlue crew. The King Air clearly made his presence and intentions known.


31 posted on 12/14/2023 10:39:23 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: george76

The FAA started hiring gamers years ago, maybe that’s part of the problem. They stopped pulling military controllers I think in the Obammy years if I recall correctly. https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=faa+hiring+gamers&mid=DE9BECF4B558DE230C21DE9BECF4B558DE230C21&FORM=VIRE

Then there’s also this: https://news.yahoo.com/air-traffic-controllers-mental-physical-164000876.html


32 posted on 12/14/2023 10:40:35 AM PST by TermLimits4All ("If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.")
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To: RWGinger
True, a lot of controllers quit, retired or were fired due to refusal to take the vax, but the FAA recently mandated a comprehensive and very expensive anti collision system that should make this kind of traffic conflict a thing of the past.

You can even monitor conflicting traffic on your cell phone, including collision warnings with any nearby conflicting traffic.

33 posted on 12/14/2023 10:41:41 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: TermLimits4All

34 posted on 12/14/2023 10:44:28 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: jaydubya2

That’s true to a point. I landed daily with that and collision avoidance systems on board blaring about aircraft on the ground or taking off from another runway. You had to keep your ears and eyes open but that still wasn’t a guarantee.


35 posted on 12/14/2023 10:44:48 AM PST by GMThrust
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36 posted on 12/14/2023 10:45:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: jaydubya2

So one plane was taking off against the wind while ons was landing with the wind? A designated runway wasn’t in effect? A breakdown somewhere.


37 posted on 12/14/2023 10:45:53 AM PST by willarryk
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To: 9422WMR

It’s a trend and a very dangerous one. Word is, just you wait the actual is right around the corner from noted experts in the field of aircraft safety.


38 posted on 12/14/2023 10:46:17 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: 9422WMR
Well a near miss is still a miss!

Having been involved in one (collision did not occur), I can tell you ... the pucker factor goes WAY up when I can see the "d/c" on the other guy's green headset!

39 posted on 12/14/2023 10:47:12 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Regulator

Worst places to fly in my experience. Can’t even put a number on lack of calls and go-arounds to and from these types of airports.


40 posted on 12/14/2023 10:47:28 AM PST by GMThrust
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