Posted on 12/14/2023 2:33:03 PM PST by algore
Screw Rubio!
It is amazing how hard it is to get rid of government bureaucracy.
They just seem to be living taking on a life of their own.
Does that little moron realize he took the only tool we had to get the euros to pay their fair Shar out of Trumps hands? Trump ought to send the bill to Congress and ask them how they intend to pay the difference without taxpayer money. Stupid stupid jerks
The government of perpetual war has to stop Trump from bringing peace
I am not sure this is constitutional.
In any event, alliance member or not, no president would be compelled to do anything as a result of being an alliance member. The decisions if, when and how to use force pursuant to the NATO treaty still rest with the president. This is an anti-Trump move by the terrible Neocon Marco Foam Party Rubio.
Nothing can stop the MIC. The legislators pocket millions.
Got to keep subsidizing that European socialism.
I would almost think the legislation was not needed, as being part of NATO is a treaty arrangement the U.S. signed, and the Senate approved, and I did not think that Presidents can unilaterly defy a treaty arrangement the U.S. is part of.
It seems to me the legislation was stating what was already legally obvious.
That President who wants to end/diminish NATO need only NOT INCLUDE anything for it in the NDAA budget.
Guess they don’t understand separation of powers, coequal branches of government.
They don’t have authority to limit either of the other branches in any way, and vice versa.
It’s about clawing authority they don’t have, not in the subject itself.
They forget coequal branches of government and that none have authority over the rest.
Hard to say what’s needed anymore. Obama signed on (illegally w/o Senate Approval) to the Paris Climate Accords, IIRC.
Regardless, I’d say the way to diminish NATO is to just not include any funding or operational orders supporting it. NATO has become a lumbering behemoth going far beyond its original charter. If Europe and some here in the US want NATO-like involvement in the mideast, then create a new treaty and get it passed through the Senate and stop piggy-backing off cold war NATO.
To hell with NATO and Europe.
Let them rot in their soon to be Muslim countries.
Dem Presidents have ignored treaties. Clinton for one when it came to Taiwan.
A larger majority in congress can overturn this BS!! NATO is an absolutely USELESS organization that the US is the major supporter of our tax dollars WASTED as usual!!
Just ask South Vietnam.
“Hard to say what’s needed anymore. Obama signed on (illegally w/o Senate Approval) to the Paris Climate Accords, IIRC.”
And because it did not constitute a treaty no president since is required by law to follow it.
Presidential agreements not signed as a treaty approved by the Senate have no force of law, to any administration that does not feel bound by it.
A treaty approved by the Senate is different, in law. It is pretty near to, but not as strongs as, a Constitutional amendment but considered part of “the Supreme law of the land”.
I think the “new” legilsation was not needed to keep the U.S. in NATO without the Congress agreeing to dissolve a U.S. treaty arrangement.
If a U.S. President attempts to leave NATO without Senate approval or an Act of Congress, the bill prohibits any funding from being used to do so and also authorizes Congressional Legal Counsel to challenge the Administration in court.
So Trump (or whoever) could still actually do it
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