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NYC Council approves bills forcing cops to record all encounters, banning solitary confinement
NY Post ^ | 12/20/2023 | Social Links Craig McCarthy , Aneeta Bhole and Emily Crane

Posted on 12/21/2023 6:47:12 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The New York City Council pushed through two controversial bills Wednesday that will see a ban on solitary confinement in Big Apple jails and force cops to file reports for every street stop they carry out — even the low-level ones.

The two bills, which were vehemently opposed by Mayor Eric Adams along with police and jail guard unions, passed with a veto-proof majority — meaning the legislation will likely not be quashed by Hizzoner and will become law.

“The New York City Council has taken action today that, if implemented, will unquestionably make our city less safe,” the mayor said in a statement about the passage of the so-called “How Many Stops Act.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bills; cops; council; donutwatch; nyc
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RIP NYC. Enjoy the suck
1 posted on 12/21/2023 6:47:12 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

a ban on solitary confinement?

This will not end well......................for some people............


2 posted on 12/21/2023 6:48:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
that issue of cops documenting their encounters was FORCED on Chicago PD during O-Bummer reign..it's a major reason why crime is UP.

Cops just don't care about the paperwork

3 posted on 12/21/2023 6:49:12 AM PST by Paul46360 (Nuk'em all--- let GOD sort them out!)
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To: Red Badger

I have zero sympathy for anyone living in NYC, LA, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, or Chicago.

None.

L


4 posted on 12/21/2023 6:50:56 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Tell ya the truth, I think I like these changes.

Solitary confinement can drive you literally insane, permanently. It is cruel punishment, if not unusual.

And who can possibly be against cops recording their own behavior?


5 posted on 12/21/2023 6:51:15 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lurker
I have zero sympathy for anyone living in NYC, LA, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, or Chicago. None

While I agree with this, see my above comment.

6 posted on 12/21/2023 6:52:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I can’t see the officers complain much. They will just interact much less to prevent paperwork and less interactions keeps them safer.


7 posted on 12/21/2023 6:52:26 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Lazamataz

See #7.


8 posted on 12/21/2023 6:53:10 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Red Badger

Wait, NY is banning solitary?

The DC Gulag won’t like that since they have hundreds of trespassers locked down in solitary.


9 posted on 12/21/2023 6:53:22 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Openurmind

This law forces them to *record* their encounters. I have no problem with that. Keeps them on the straight and narrow.

This law does not force them to *document* their encounters, in which I would agree with your point.


10 posted on 12/21/2023 6:55:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz
You need to look at it from the viewpoint of a good cop.

Solitary confinement: I can no longer isolate this convict, even for his own protection.

Street stop: That looks like a crime going down, but do I want to go through the hassle of all the paperwork involved? Or should I just drive on to the donut shop?

11 posted on 12/21/2023 6:55:21 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

New Yawk didn’t learn the lesson of what happens when you make your city a “sanctuary” for illegal aliens. Now it’s a “sanctuary” for felons. ROTFL! Losers gotta be losers.


12 posted on 12/21/2023 6:56:00 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The American Taxpayers don't owe anybody an instant "I want it now" version of the American dream.)
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To: Openurmind

Oh wait. I see you are right. They need to document everything.

Utterly stupid.

However, I see a possible solution AND a possible money-making opportunity: Devise software that hangs off their body cams that automatically files a report.


13 posted on 12/21/2023 6:56:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s like New York and California are having a race to see who can enact the stupidest policy every day. I’ve got you beat ... No no no ... I’ve got you beat ... etc etc etc


14 posted on 12/21/2023 6:58:18 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Vigilanteman
Solitary confinement: I can no longer isolate this convict, even for his own protection.

Interesting point. Not sure how you accomodate that; if you distinguish between protective solitary and punative solitary, suddenly every single solitary decision becomes instantly 'protective'.

15 posted on 12/21/2023 6:59:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz

“who can possibly be against cops recording their own behavior?”

Agreed. Rodney King coulda gone down a whole different way.

Something similar happened in my town a couple of months ago. Perp claimed police brutality after he ended up with 2 black eyes and other cuts and bruises.....multiple police body cams shows he got tazed while fleeing and did a header on a curb.
So really, he did it to himself.


16 posted on 12/21/2023 6:59:19 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Lazamataz

Having to document the age, chosen gender and race for every tourist asking for directions?


17 posted on 12/21/2023 7:00:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ChicagoConservative27

You get what you vote for...


18 posted on 12/21/2023 7:01:23 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Lazamataz

“ Solitary confinement can drive you literally insane, permanently. It is cruel punishment.”

So what do you do with the violent sub-80 IQ feral who is a constant danger to those around him even in a jail setting? Properly used it’s not punishment but done for the safety of the other inmates.

“And who can possibly be against cops recording their own behavior.”

Don’t we have body cameras for that? What this law does, as I understand it, is require a written report of every single interaction with the public. Could you do that? While this may sound good, and the Left is expert at making terrible policy sound good, the result will be cops simply refusing to interact with the public at all.

I suspect that is the real goal of this.

L


19 posted on 12/21/2023 7:01:42 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: 9YearLurker
Having to document the age, chosen gender and race for every tourist asking for directions?

Have software do that. Hang the software off the body cam. Deliver a trillion reports a day to the NYC City Council with a demand they view every one and critique it.

20 posted on 12/21/2023 7:03:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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