Posted on 01/17/2024 2:50:36 PM PST by Rummyfan
Joseph Stalin is roaring back to life in Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Monuments are being built, “Stalin centers” are being constructed, and Putin’s war against Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s Ukraine is being compared to Stalin’s victory over Adolf Hitler’s Germany.
Given the fascist nature of Putin’s regime and the imperialist, genocidal war he’s conducting in Ukraine, Stalin’s rehabilitation makes perfect sense. More important than the political rationale behind Stalin’s “return” to Russia, however, are the moral implications of such a move.
Back in 2011, Yale University historian Timothy Snyder asked, “Hitler vs. Stalin: Who Was Worse?” His answer implied that both men were equally horrid genocidal monsters worthy of equal condemnation: “Hitler was worse, because his regime propagated the unprecedented horror of the Holocaust, the attempt to eradicate an entire people on racial grounds. Yet Stalin was also worse, because his regime killed far, far more people — tens of millions, it was often claimed — in the endless wastes of the Gulag.”
If we accept Snyder’s logic — both the numbers of dead and the moral equivalence of all lost lives argue for accepting it — we should be as outraged by Russia’s full-scale rehabilitation of Stalin as we are by some isolated instance of Hitler’s white-washing. But, in general, we’re not. We condemn Hitler and Nazism in whichever form they might appear or be depicted, but respond only with criticism, and sometimes with humor, to justifications of Stalin and Stalinism.
Why this moral ambivalence in the presence of equivalent evils?
(Excerpt) Read more at themessenger.com ...
Ironic, since Stalin was Georgian.
Add Putin to the fascist, dictatorial, murderer, authoritarian, anti-[personal] liberty, Rooskie Pantheon.
War, War, War How Do You Like It, How Do You Like It?
The essay puts forward a reasonably fair assessment of reality.
Prezactly.
Where, other than in Hillary’s Russia, Russia, Russia deliriums, is all of this pro Stalin mania happening? What you’re seeing in Ukraine with such things as “postponed” elections, outlawing and persecuting Christians, a criminally suicidal Uke Volkssturm, the brutal, unaccountable secret police are pure Stalinist. The western press masters certainly don’t your help in spreading their disinfo.
The Soviets won World War II. So they never said that Stalin was a bad guy. Although, they stopped “honoring” him after he died.
Not one single instance to back up this crap is mentioned in your post. You are asked to “accept some guys premise” and it’s off to the made up disinfo races. What stoogery.
None of them were Russian.
Kruschev grew up in the Donbas. Brehznev was Ukrainian, Chernyenko’s family was Ukrainian living in Siberia.
Andropov was born in the north Caucasus.
Gorbachev was also born in the North Caucasus. His mother and his wife was Ukrainian.
At least they were Slavs though. Georgians are not Slavs.
Who writes this crap?
They tried “Putin is the next Hitler”.
But that doesn’t seem to be working.
So now they try “Putin is Stalin”.
So instead of Putler, we will have Putlin ?
And then you have (((Lenin))) himself.
The Left’s creeping attempt in this country at making pedophilia normal.
If there’s one person who should be happy Putin invaded, it’s Adolf Trump. Putin has replaced Trump as the west’s #1 worldwide pariah.
Didn’t K. Marx [of Jewish background] live and prosper in Germany?
The specific geography of birth is not all that important in developing the despot.
The “peasants” of Russia have been ill served for centuries.
[Blame it on the Vikings...]
“Who writes this crap?”
It’s at listed the top and at the source - Alexander John Motyl
Alexander John Motyl (Ukrainian: Олександр Мотиль; born October 21, 1953) is an American historian, political scientist, poet, writer, translator and artist-painter. He is a resident of New York City. He is professor of political science at Rutgers University in Newark, New Jersey and a specialist on Ukraine, Russia, and the Soviet Union.
Motyl’s parents emigrated as refugees from Western Ukraine after World War II, when the region was occupied by the Soviet Union.[1] He was born in New York City on October 21, 1953. He graduated from Regis High School in New York City in 1971. He studied at Columbia University, graduating with a BA in History in 1975 and a Ph.D. in Political Science in 1984.[2] Motyl has taught at Columbia University, Lehigh University, the Ukrainian Free University, the Kyiv-Mohyla University, and Harvard University and is currently[when?] professor of political science at Rutgers University-Newark.[3] Aside from academic work, he also writes opinion columns in publications such as Foreign Policy,[4] 19FortyFive, and the Kyiv Post.[5]
Those of us who bother to READ ACTUAL HISTORY know that he grew up in an entirely Moscovite enclave, considered himself a Muscovite, and hated Georgians.
And I'll just reiterate what I've posted many times already:
Just after the WW2 Tehran Conference, Stalin said to a journalist, (roughly translated):
"It's high time the Slavic race was in charge of Europe.".
Never forget that modern-day Muskovite political culture is in part derived from the Mongol hordes who over-ran the region in the 13th century.
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