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US calls Chinese EVs a posssible security threat
Asia Times ^

Posted on 02/01/2024 4:58:36 AM PST by FarCenter

The Biden administration has warned that Chinese electric vehicles can pose a national security threat to the United States as they can collect huge amounts of personal information and may send it overseas.

US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said during an Atlantic Council fireside chat on Tuesday that the US should think deeply about whether it wants all the data collected by electric and autonomous vehicles to be sent to China. She said the information could be about the driver, the location of the vehicle and the surroundings of the vehicle.

Raimondo’s comments came after Bloomberg reported last week that the White House is preparing an executive order to prevent foreign adversaries from accessing “highly sensitive” individual data.

A Commerce Department official said the commerce chief’s comments were unrelated to the executive order. The official said Raimondo is increasingly focused on new technology areas from a national security perspective.

Chinese columnist Ruan Jiaqi on Wednesday criticized Raimondo, accusing her of maliciously defaming China’s EV makers. Ruan said EVs made by Chinese firms such as BYD have already received strong market responses in Europe and Latin America but not actually entered the US market due to an additional 25% tariff imposed by the Trump administration on Chinese autos in 2019.

Citing a previous comment from the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Ruan said the United States’ protectionism may have violated the World Trade Organization’s most-favored-nation principle and national treatment principle. She said the US should abide by WTO rules, uphold the trade order to ensure fair competition and provide a fair, just and nondiscriminatory business environment for foreign companies.

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According to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM), the number of new energy vehicles (NEVs) produced in China rose 35.8% to 9.59 million units last year from 2022 while those sold in the country increased 37.9% to 9.5 million units.

The National Passenger Car Information Exchange Association said China exported 1.2 million units of NEVs, 38% of which were shipped to Europe last year. It said Belgium, the United Kingdom, Slovenia and France were among the top destinations of Chinese NEVs.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; China; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; china; ecars; electric; evs; evsurveillance; nsadoessame; security; soareusevs; whataboutours
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1 posted on 02/01/2024 4:58:36 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Last week I was in Costa Rica. My taxi we took was a Chinese Electric Vehicle. It had 200 kilometers, brand new. It was amazing a very SMART car, with all kinds of sensors, almost no need of a driver, and for sure collecting all sorts of data, and who knows how they could use this data to send back to their leader in China.


2 posted on 02/01/2024 5:02:59 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: FarCenter
They would most certainly be a threat if one parked in your garage or underneath your hotel.
3 posted on 02/01/2024 5:04:36 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: FarCenter

Who needs a balloon when we can drive right into classified areas with cameras all around? Why is this only EV autos?


4 posted on 02/01/2024 5:05:23 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: FarCenter

My goodness! With all of that data, the Chinese might figure out that the Biden Administration is a bunch of evil dolts! We cannot have foreign powers figuring that out, to the extent they don’t already know it.


5 posted on 02/01/2024 5:06:28 AM PST by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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To: FarCenter

Right now, our biggest security threat is the Brandon administration.


6 posted on 02/01/2024 5:12:50 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: FarCenter

I suppose a law requiring that cars NOT collect data and store it or send it to the mothership is out of the question.


7 posted on 02/01/2024 5:12:58 AM PST by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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To: rlmorel

Oh, the ChiComs would NEVER implement an “IGNITE” command in the car’s software. Nope, never.

/s


8 posted on 02/01/2024 5:17:31 AM PST by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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To: FarCenter

Meanwhile, TikTok is on zillions of smartphones.


9 posted on 02/01/2024 5:18:44 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FarCenter

Like Biden really cares. All he cares about are his union buddies.


10 posted on 02/01/2024 5:23:52 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: beef

“I suppose a law requiring that cars NOT collect data and store it or send it to the mothership is out of the question.”

A fence jumping Missouri Mule is looking better and better everyday...


11 posted on 02/01/2024 5:25:49 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: FarCenter

I don’t dispute China collecting the information, but, at least for the short term, I am MUCH MORE INTERESTED in what DC is doing with all of the information now being sent to them from today’s newer cars.

(and don’t fool yourself, any industry as highly regulated by the feds will not have any issue ratting out every bit of data they can get from you)


12 posted on 02/01/2024 5:27:33 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: FarCenter

Meanwhile he continues to leave the border wide open allowing thousands of male Chinese nationals of military age into the country.


13 posted on 02/01/2024 5:42:16 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: FarCenter

14 posted on 02/01/2024 5:51:03 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: beef

> I suppose a law requiring that cars NOT collect data and store it or send it to the mothership is out of the question. <

It’s definitely out of the question. The Feds don’t want to stop the data collection. They want to get in on the action.


15 posted on 02/01/2024 5:51:53 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: FarCenter

Meanwhile back at home in China riding in an EV:

Driving Covered with a Blanket, No AC, Even Pushing Cars! China’s EVs Only 30% Range in Winter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf9Ax4Crcy8

China Bans Cheap Knockoff EVs From Roads, Reason: They’re Too Dangerous! Senior Citizens’ Are Angry!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G1ltZWzd9c


16 posted on 02/01/2024 5:54:32 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FreedomPoster
Meanwhile, TikTok is on zillions of smartphones.

One of President Biden's first executive orders was removing President Trump's ban on TikTok.

17 posted on 02/01/2024 5:57:01 AM PST by marktwain (quq)
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To: FarCenter

You know, we really do have a bunch of dolts running this country. All talk, no action. Disgusting.


18 posted on 02/01/2024 5:58:52 AM PST by NeverTyranny
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To: marktwain

They bribed heavily for that.


19 posted on 02/01/2024 6:16:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
A few hundred million dollars to control the most powerful country in the world, and an economic policy over dozens of trillions of dollars, is a very cheap bribe.
20 posted on 02/01/2024 6:26:56 AM PST by marktwain (quq)
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