Posted on 02/07/2024 8:21:56 AM PST by Twotone
There will be a separate test created for the "marginalized" and "under represented" which will undoubtedly be a less stringent exam than the one others take.
Because white supremacy, colonialism, and the patriarchy.
I’m told that SAT and ACT tests are racist because they use words like “yacht.”
That’s not fair because blacks don’t have yachts and don’t know what they are, while all white people have at least one.
They also tell me that using stereotypes is racist.
ItâÂÂs clear from their statements that theyâÂÂre only going back to testing because - and they ADMIT this - they will allow black students in with lower test scores. Every time they do this they are shutting the door to a White student who has EARNED it and isnâÂÂt asking for a handout.
Regardless, IâÂÂm sending my kids to Hillsdale. The vast majority of universities in America are just woke trash now.
Yeah, taking a 3 hour test over the past 12 years of schooling to determine your future.
You’re better off being a plumber than an Ivy grad.
...GPA is pretty much meaningless these days unless you know the quality of the school.
Who even knows what he GPA limit is these days? A parent bragged to me the other day about their kid's 6.0 GPA. What?
So it is not uncommon for high achievers to get 4.5 GPAs .
Straight As in school with half the course work taken at the AP level.
Back in jr. high, the teacher passed out the ol’ California Achievement tests we’d worked on that morning willy nilly with no regard for our names at the top. I knew why why he didn’t care. I was the kid who was given IQ tests to demonstrate to teachers and professionals how to give and interpret them. What a freakin’ joke. They are ridiculously easy to manipulate. At 6, I asked by the car puzzle didn’t have headlights. Well, duh, it didn’t. For some reason, that was talked about for years but the puzzle was never fixed. 8th grade, not so out of the norm, I’d get bored and intentionally miss questions just to go eat lunch.
Took the SAT after driving 4 hours in the middle of the night through ice and snow to get there at 8 and sick as a dog with a temperature and coughing constantly. Nope, that was not a valid indication of the past 12 years of education.
Also, easy enough to hire a smart kid to take the SAT for you.
College admittance officers are paid to know the quality of the school.
Oh, stop it.
Even without special study (which students can do free on their own, btw), the SAT well sorts students by their ability to do work at the level of school they are best matched to.
And exceptions can prove themselves and transfer, etc., otherwise.
The test isn’t meant to cover 12 years of schooling, just reasonably sort students for aptitude applicable at the next level.
In fact, they can be the opposite of racist.
Back in the day, I worked with gifted kids in some of Americas worst inner city ghettos.
These gifted kids had to hide their talents so they would not get an ass kicking on the way home from school every day from the gang bangers back in the good old days of the Crips and Bloods drug wars.
As a result, the good kids usually had artificially and intentionally low GPAs as an act of self preservation.
I worked hard as an advocate to keep them on track and to get them scholarships and college admits.
When a kid from an at risk back ground has a 2.0 GPA from a bad school in the hood but gets a 36 on the ACT and straight 800s on the SATs people in admissions can often be convinced to stand up and take notice.
This can make some exceptional things happen because exceptional arrangements can be made for exceptional people, but only if you have a way of proving the person actually is exceptional.
A good portfolio of outstanding admissions test results can be a way to validate that proof for students who for various reasons like the above or having to work after school to support your family means your GPA is not a good reflection of your potential
It’s called “Crab Bucket Mentality”, when they see someone trying to escape, they pull them back in.
I had a girl friend who filled in the dots on standardized test forms to draw dot matrix flowers and smiley faces.
She was pretty smart.
” the SAT well sorts students by their ability to do work at the level of school they are best matched to.”
Then why don’t more Asians get into Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Columbia?
Must be more to the Admissions process.
I kind of have a soft spot for standardized tests.
If it were not for them, it's entirely possible I could be pushing a shopping cart carrying all my worldly goods down the side walk in front of walmart.
Without them, I probably would not be where I am today.
Just sayin’
“Standardized tests can show a lot and they are far from racist.”
I never mentioned Race.
Interesting that your first sentence uses it.
My post was focused on ABILITY.
I guarantee it.
I did have classmates who obsessed with prep. Running around like chickens with their heads cut off. A big weekend with PSAT. Oddly, many who obsessed with this prep never graduated from college. That said, there were many more who scored well and proceeded to earn professional and academic degrees. Perhaps scoring high on the SAT put some of them into college settings where they encountered students with far higher ability. They were ill prepared for the level of academic rigor and fierce competition of a higher end school.
After days of practice, I still averaged about 25%, which was as good as guessing. I began to pray… really pray. A couple of days before the exam “the light went off,” and I saw how to answer the business questions. From then on I got 100% on the practice tests.
It turns out the MBA only helped me once,25 years later. The experience proved I'm great at self-study… and prayer.
The university I attended at first said, “We don't accept students [with degrees] from unaccredited schools.” But after getting a score in the 98th percentile, they were practically begging me to come. I was the only one in my class who graduated with top honors.
“It was a pragmatic pause taken by most colleges and universities in response to an unprecedented global pandemic,”
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America would be much better off to ‘PAUSE’ ALL colleges and universities, end tenure, fire all professors, fire half the top management, replace all board or regents members, cut half the staff, and stick to basics only degree programs (e.g. engineering, math, accounting, law, medical and so on).
I would say pause the top 25 first for 18 months, then the second 25 for 18 months, then the third and so on until all schools have paused and are no longer pedaling fraudulent degrees or promoting marxism. Hopefully, 25% of the worst “schools” would just go out of business.
“illiterate and innumerate students”
Innumerate? Thanks. I hadn’t considered the correct word for inability to understand or calculate numeric data. Live and learn.
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