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Study finds California’s semi truck electrification comes with enormous costs that hit consumers
Just The News ^ | March 10, 2024 11:17pm | By Kevin Killough

Posted on 03/11/2024 8:35:41 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

California is about to crash and burn with this type of nonsense.


21 posted on 03/11/2024 9:04:46 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Red Badger

I just skimmed article. I’ve been hearing people are worried about the extra weight of EVs on roads and bridges.


22 posted on 03/11/2024 9:07:12 AM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

The bigger the battery, the less room for cargo. More trucks will be needed to hauls the excess cargo. More trucks and more trucks. No room on the highway for cars.


23 posted on 03/11/2024 9:11:51 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Red Badger

This is a good article because FINALLY people are waking up to the overall SYSTEMS problem including global mining of rare earths, the labor to do that (often child labor), the fossil fuels expended in the mines, the point that tailpipe particulate emissions are nil and tire wear particulates will increase a huge amount with heavier vehicles, electricity supply, rebuilding the electricity T&D system, charging times, power requirements for huge recharge stations, and lots more.

The systems analysis should be expanded to factor in the additional costs to the entire supply chain of every product and how that will cause prices of EVERYTHING to soar.

It should also include the huge subsidies paid by FedGov that are bankrupting the nation.

The reported analysis doesn’t even factor in the folly of unreliable, weather-dependent, intermittent electricity supply that would gobble up hundreds of millions of acres of valuable land and permanently despoil the beautiful USA landscape.

And for WHAT, you might ask? If you electrified all transportation globally, you would reduce global CO2 emissions by maybe 5% which would POSSIBLY reduce global temperature by 0.1 degree 100 years from now.

What a disaster.


24 posted on 03/11/2024 9:14:26 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: NetAddicted

Yes, EVs of all sorts are way heavier than the ICE vehicles due to battery weight.

They also eat tires and brakes at a much higher rate because of that as well.

So, they increase brake and tire dust, which is more dangerous to peoples’ lungs, at the expense of saying they decrease CO2 which doesn’t harm anybody.

These people are insane...................


25 posted on 03/11/2024 9:16:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

For adopting a stupid plan like this one, I think several gov’t. officials need to be taken out & beaten with a large tree branch until senseless or nearly so. This can’t do anything but make more problems than we already have. Look at the trouble they are already having with electric buses. Biden & some others will be out of office by the time this takes effect, but maybe they also will be drastically effected by it. It can absolutely accomplish nothing good. If the object of these rules is what it seems to be..of destroying our nation; then they are certainly working.


26 posted on 03/11/2024 9:17:01 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: fireman15

Spontaneous EV Combustion


27 posted on 03/11/2024 9:18:33 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Red Badger

Because so much import/export business goes through CA ports, not to mention all the ag and other products originating in CA but marketed in other states, the Feds need to override CA limits on diesel trucks on grounds of Federal Control of interstate commerce. Lots of lefty junk has been done under that rubric, but this really belongs under it and CA can’t be allowed to interdict the rest of the states with its looney green policies.


28 posted on 03/11/2024 9:20:04 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: Rlsau1

They won’t even let their premise be questioned.
They know that they’ll never win a debate so they cancel, dox and prosecute any who dare challenge it.

We’re running out of options.


29 posted on 03/11/2024 9:20:09 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (Make orwell fiction again)
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To: oldtech

Isaiah 3:4

“I will make mere youths their officials;
children will rule over them.”


30 posted on 03/11/2024 9:22:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+3&version=NIV/


31 posted on 03/11/2024 9:23:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

“How much more of a load will we force our future generations to bear..”

Future generations will curse these bastards and shitcan all of their filthy green regulations.


32 posted on 03/11/2024 9:30:40 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Red Badger

Hey, every time the US Gobblement imposes higher taxes on businesses or pass new regulations that affect their net profits they just pass the cost onto their customers in spite of what Joe Birdbrain claims.


33 posted on 03/11/2024 9:31:58 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: maddog55

Stunning no one saw this comming


34 posted on 03/11/2024 9:46:29 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: Red Badger

If you’re a truck driver, why would you stay in California when there are many states where you could drive your current trucks?


35 posted on 03/11/2024 9:52:52 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: maddog55

And after shortages and rising prices. Biden will again broadcast a speech saying “Come on Mannnnn” ….. “Quit ripping us off mannnnn”


36 posted on 03/11/2024 9:53:00 AM PDT by midwest_hiker
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“Hauling heavy loads over long distances requires very large batteries that take hours to recharge.”

There are a number of problems with EV trucks.

First of all most of the electric Semi from Freightliner, Volvo, Kenworth and Peterbilt are about $400k-500k.

Secondly, as a consequence of being heavier, electric trucks can’t carry as much freight as diesel trucks. The head of the trade association for California drayage truckers said that companies will need to double the size of their fleets just to haul the same amount of freight they currently do.

In California, the state government and private companies are going to spend gobs of money to buy electric trucks for which there aren’t yet charging stations or electric capacity, so that they can move less freight at higher cost. So, longer charging times less freight moved.

And who does this help? China, Russia, the labor union, amd ther government with taxes. That’s why EV cars are sitting in the show rooms gathering dust. The public has caught on to this one.

As for the electricty in California, as of 2021, 30.1% of electricity was imported (11.7% from Northwest and 18.4% from Southwest) out of which 22.6% was of unspecified origin and 30.9% were renewables. The Northwest category is made up of Alberta, British Columbia, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, and Wyoming. The Southwest category includes Arizona, Baja California, Colorado, Mexico, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, and Utah.

And according to their site, they generate less than half of the electricity at 47.78%:

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/2022-total-system-electric-generation#:~:text=The%20Northwest%20category%20is%20made,Mexico%2C%20Texas%2C%20and%20Utah.

This informtion is two years old, but the increase in vehicle needs is going to finish the electricity problems in California. They just won’t have enough, period.

wy69


37 posted on 03/11/2024 9:56:56 AM PDT by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“Hauling heavy loads over long distances requires very large batteries that take hours to recharge.”

There are a number of problems with EV trucks.

First of all most of the electric Semi from Freightliner, Volvo, Kenworth and Peterbilt are about $400k-500k.

Secondly, as a consequence of being heavier, electric trucks can’t carry as much freight as diesel trucks. The head of the trade association for California drayage truckers said that companies will need to double the size of their fleets just to haul the same amount of freight they currently do.

In California, the state government and private companies are going to spend gobs of money to buy electric trucks for which there aren’t yet charging stations or electric capacity, so that they can move less freight at higher cost. So, longer charging times less freight moved.

And who does this help? China, Russia, the labor union, amd ther government with taxes. That’s why EV cars are sitting in the show rooms gathering dust. The public has caught on to this one.

As for the electricty in California, as of 2021, 30.1% of electricity was imported (11.7% from Northwest and 18.4% from Southwest) out of which 22.6% was of unspecified origin and 30.9% were renewables. The Northwest category is made up of Alberta, British Columbia, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, and Wyoming. The Southwest category includes Arizona, Baja California, Colorado, Mexico, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, and Utah.

And according to their site, they generate less than half of the electricity at 47.78%:

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/2022-total-system-electric-generation#:~:text=The%20Northwest%20category%20is%20made,Mexico%2C%20Texas%2C%20and%20Utah.

This informtion is two years old, but the increase in vehicle needs is going to finish the electricity problems in California. They just won’t have enough, period.

wy69


38 posted on 03/11/2024 9:56:56 AM PDT by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: CatOwner

Deliver to the state line, then drop the load.....................


39 posted on 03/11/2024 9:58:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: whitney69
"companies will need to double the size of their fleets just to haul the same amount of freight they currently do"

bttt

40 posted on 03/11/2024 9:59:03 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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