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Study finds California’s semi truck electrification comes with enormous costs that hit consumers
Just The News ^ | March 10, 2024 11:17pm | By Kevin Killough

Posted on 03/11/2024 8:35:41 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 03/11/2024 8:35:41 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Bad decisions have consequences... every decision California makes is a bad one.


2 posted on 03/11/2024 8:36:56 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Red Badger

Those Californians can feel so virtuous and so superior to the rest of us as they pay those higher prices.


3 posted on 03/11/2024 8:39:35 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: Red Badger

I have no doubt that the destruction of these types of business is the feature, not the bug, when it comes to the commies in this state.

4 posted on 03/11/2024 8:41:18 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Red Badger

Where is all this friggin’ electricity coming from?? A key and a kite??


5 posted on 03/11/2024 8:44:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Red Badger

This whole EV thing isn’t going to end well, as it did from 1894-1915. ICE will remain king.


6 posted on 03/11/2024 8:45:01 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Red Badger
I'm very familiar with California's truck electrification idiocy. I've worked with several clients who are looking at how it impacts their operations.

California's government leaders are absolutely retarded. It's comparable to giving a kindergartener a driver's license and expecting him to drive to school every day.

7 posted on 03/11/2024 8:45:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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At one time I thought the only good application of EV technology would be large vehicles like trucks or busses because then the percentage of weight taken up by the batteries would be low. However, it turns out that the opposite is true. Hauling heavy loads over long distances requires very large batteries that take hours to recharge.

Long Beach thinks they'll get cleaner air, but the increased particulates from tires and brake pads from heavier trucks might negate whatever gains they get from cleaner tailpipes.

8 posted on 03/11/2024 8:45:35 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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California provides great support for the premise that a one-party state, unhindered by organized opposition, will quckly spin out of control. And that dedicating resources to a spurious principle will soon yield absurdity.


9 posted on 03/11/2024 8:46:01 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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bttt


10 posted on 03/11/2024 8:49:09 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Sacajaweau

Where is all this friggin’ electricity coming from?? A key and a kite??
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I see you still have a history book. Turn it in for destruction of misinformation.

Electricity came from a palm tree down to a thatch hut.


11 posted on 03/11/2024 8:49:47 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: Red Badger

Say it ain’t so. Nobody saw that one coming.


12 posted on 03/11/2024 8:53:21 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Sacajaweau

I think you’ve stumbled upon an idea there. Instead of making wind turbines safe from lightning strikes, we should make them attractive to strikes and collect the electricity from lightning in battery packs. That’ll solve the world’s energy problems!


13 posted on 03/11/2024 8:55:01 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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This is why I think complaining about corporate taxes being too low. Taxes are a part of the cost of doing business. If they go up, consumer prices go up.

It’s that simple.


14 posted on 03/11/2024 8:55:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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how long to charge one of those suckers???


15 posted on 03/11/2024 8:57:26 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Stage coaches pulled by teams of unicorns would make almost as much sense.


16 posted on 03/11/2024 9:00:40 AM PDT by Stosh
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If you don’t like the answers/results you’re getting check your premise. Unfortunately, some folks can never admit their premise is WRONG.


17 posted on 03/11/2024 9:01:07 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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They’ll carry less cargo because of their extra weight so they’ll have to make more trips ? D’oh


18 posted on 03/11/2024 9:01:27 AM PDT by butlerweave
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The bigger the vehicle and the longer the required range, the less battery power makes good or any sense at all.

A few years ago I built an electric bicycle. It had approximately 30 miles of range and could average about 30 mph on the flat. It cost very little to charge it up and had obvious applications... it kind of made sense. I still ended up selling it because it didn't actually fit my needs. It cost only a few hundred dollars to put together and was a fun project. Would I build another one? No.

These days people are spending massive amounts of money on electric cars which have payments that are far more than most people spend on gasoline. They cost even more when you figure in what they spend to insure, charge and maintain them, not to mention the very rapid depreciation in value.

If you remove Tesla from the equation only about 50% of electric car buyers say that they would purchase another electric car.

Electric trucks from pickups to any large commercial vehicle are mostly an unmitigated disaster.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13141825/Britains-e-bus-ticking-timebomb-nearly-TWO-THOUSAND-electric-buses-worth-800m-face-urgent-recall-fears-burst-flames.html


19 posted on 03/11/2024 9:03:45 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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And the bigger the battery, the longer it will take to charge it.

Battery-powered delivery vans actually make a lot of sense. The operating cost is definitely lower for an EV van than an ICE van, and for most applications the van is parked at a terminal overnight and has hours of idle time for charging.

Electrifying a Class 8 tractor for over-the-road use is like transporting cargo from Asia to the U.S. in a canoe.

20 posted on 03/11/2024 9:03:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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