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1 posted on 03/11/2024 8:35:41 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Bad decisions have consequences... every decision California makes is a bad one.


2 posted on 03/11/2024 8:36:56 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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Those Californians can feel so virtuous and so superior to the rest of us as they pay those higher prices.


3 posted on 03/11/2024 8:39:35 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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I have no doubt that the destruction of these types of business is the feature, not the bug, when it comes to the commies in this state.

4 posted on 03/11/2024 8:41:18 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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Where is all this friggin’ electricity coming from?? A key and a kite??


5 posted on 03/11/2024 8:44:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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This whole EV thing isn’t going to end well, as it did from 1894-1915. ICE will remain king.


6 posted on 03/11/2024 8:45:01 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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I'm very familiar with California's truck electrification idiocy. I've worked with several clients who are looking at how it impacts their operations.

California's government leaders are absolutely retarded. It's comparable to giving a kindergartener a driver's license and expecting him to drive to school every day.

7 posted on 03/11/2024 8:45:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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At one time I thought the only good application of EV technology would be large vehicles like trucks or busses because then the percentage of weight taken up by the batteries would be low. However, it turns out that the opposite is true. Hauling heavy loads over long distances requires very large batteries that take hours to recharge.

Long Beach thinks they'll get cleaner air, but the increased particulates from tires and brake pads from heavier trucks might negate whatever gains they get from cleaner tailpipes.

8 posted on 03/11/2024 8:45:35 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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California provides great support for the premise that a one-party state, unhindered by organized opposition, will quckly spin out of control. And that dedicating resources to a spurious principle will soon yield absurdity.


9 posted on 03/11/2024 8:46:01 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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bttt


10 posted on 03/11/2024 8:49:09 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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Say it ain’t so. Nobody saw that one coming.


12 posted on 03/11/2024 8:53:21 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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how long to charge one of those suckers???


15 posted on 03/11/2024 8:57:26 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Stage coaches pulled by teams of unicorns would make almost as much sense.


16 posted on 03/11/2024 9:00:40 AM PDT by Stosh
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If you don’t like the answers/results you’re getting check your premise. Unfortunately, some folks can never admit their premise is WRONG.


17 posted on 03/11/2024 9:01:07 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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They’ll carry less cargo because of their extra weight so they’ll have to make more trips ? D’oh


18 posted on 03/11/2024 9:01:27 AM PDT by butlerweave
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The bigger the vehicle and the longer the required range, the less battery power makes good or any sense at all.

A few years ago I built an electric bicycle. It had approximately 30 miles of range and could average about 30 mph on the flat. It cost very little to charge it up and had obvious applications... it kind of made sense. I still ended up selling it because it didn't actually fit my needs. It cost only a few hundred dollars to put together and was a fun project. Would I build another one? No.

These days people are spending massive amounts of money on electric cars which have payments that are far more than most people spend on gasoline. They cost even more when you figure in what they spend to insure, charge and maintain them, not to mention the very rapid depreciation in value.

If you remove Tesla from the equation only about 50% of electric car buyers say that they would purchase another electric car.

Electric trucks from pickups to any large commercial vehicle are mostly an unmitigated disaster.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13141825/Britains-e-bus-ticking-timebomb-nearly-TWO-THOUSAND-electric-buses-worth-800m-face-urgent-recall-fears-burst-flames.html


19 posted on 03/11/2024 9:03:45 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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California is about to crash and burn with this type of nonsense.


21 posted on 03/11/2024 9:04:46 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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I just skimmed article. I’ve been hearing people are worried about the extra weight of EVs on roads and bridges.


22 posted on 03/11/2024 9:07:12 AM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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This is a good article because FINALLY people are waking up to the overall SYSTEMS problem including global mining of rare earths, the labor to do that (often child labor), the fossil fuels expended in the mines, the point that tailpipe particulate emissions are nil and tire wear particulates will increase a huge amount with heavier vehicles, electricity supply, rebuilding the electricity T&D system, charging times, power requirements for huge recharge stations, and lots more.

The systems analysis should be expanded to factor in the additional costs to the entire supply chain of every product and how that will cause prices of EVERYTHING to soar.

It should also include the huge subsidies paid by FedGov that are bankrupting the nation.

The reported analysis doesn’t even factor in the folly of unreliable, weather-dependent, intermittent electricity supply that would gobble up hundreds of millions of acres of valuable land and permanently despoil the beautiful USA landscape.

And for WHAT, you might ask? If you electrified all transportation globally, you would reduce global CO2 emissions by maybe 5% which would POSSIBLY reduce global temperature by 0.1 degree 100 years from now.

What a disaster.


24 posted on 03/11/2024 9:14:26 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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For adopting a stupid plan like this one, I think several gov’t. officials need to be taken out & beaten with a large tree branch until senseless or nearly so. This can’t do anything but make more problems than we already have. Look at the trouble they are already having with electric buses. Biden & some others will be out of office by the time this takes effect, but maybe they also will be drastically effected by it. It can absolutely accomplish nothing good. If the object of these rules is what it seems to be..of destroying our nation; then they are certainly working.


26 posted on 03/11/2024 9:17:01 AM PDT by oldtech
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Because so much import/export business goes through CA ports, not to mention all the ag and other products originating in CA but marketed in other states, the Feds need to override CA limits on diesel trucks on grounds of Federal Control of interstate commerce. Lots of lefty junk has been done under that rubric, but this really belongs under it and CA can’t be allowed to interdict the rest of the states with its looney green policies.


28 posted on 03/11/2024 9:20:04 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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