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Ship’s crew warned of power issues before it collided with a Baltimore bridge, governor says; 6 remain missing
Accuweather ^ | Mar 26, 2024 9:37 AM CDT | By Melissa Alonso and Elizabeth Wolfe

Posted on 03/26/2024 11:39:19 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: tophat9000

they dropped the port anchor which would have slung the ship the other way.


41 posted on 03/26/2024 12:49:06 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: tophat9000

they dropped the port anchor which would have slung the ship the other way.


42 posted on 03/26/2024 12:49:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

Yes.......................


43 posted on 03/26/2024 12:52:07 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

Thanks for the sanity.


44 posted on 03/26/2024 12:52:29 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Red Badger

WHY DIDN’T THEY DROP BOTH ANCHORS IMMEDIATELY!!!!


45 posted on 03/26/2024 12:53:13 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Probably ran on electric wenches..................


46 posted on 03/26/2024 12:55:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Dropping an anchor isn’t magical, in fact it is skill and pre-planning. Lots has to be taken into consideration, the wind, the current, the depth, drag time, what is the consistency of the sea bottom is it sand, rocks, muck? I think dropping an anchor in this emergency situation could have been a hindrance more than a help. It is laughable.


47 posted on 03/26/2024 1:03:25 PM PDT by Toespi ( )
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To: discostu
"What anchors mostly do is reduce (notice REDUCE) how much storms push the ship around. "

I recall reading (or viewing) that in many situations the anchor doesn't actually play a part in controlling the position of the ship. Instead it is the weight of anchor chain dragging on the sea floor that dictates how much the ship can move.

As a result, when the current direction changes on an anchored ship, the ship has to be prepared for motion as the ship traces a path over the anchor chain.

I think a ship can drop one anchor as it drifts in the current until it has let out a lot of chain. Then the ship can drop another anchor and take up some of the chain on the first anchor while letting out chain on the second anchor.

In its final position the ship would have to drag one or the other chains in order to move.

Freeper sailors feel free to comment.

48 posted on 03/26/2024 1:04:37 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

The chain is much heavier and does most of the work. I used to be really addicted to Deadliest Catch and there was an episode in season 4 or 5 I think where a really nasty storm was hitting the crab grounds and Cpt Hansen gave the camera a bit a tutorial on anchors. He took the ship into a bay where it would be in the lee or a mountain on an island and dropped anchor. And he talked about how the chain is actually the important part, and all it was really going to do was reduce their storm drift. But even then, with a much smaller ship and therefore a much more favorable anchor and chain to ship weight ratio he didn’t expect the anchor to make the ship not move, just not more FAR (mostly to keep the back end of the storm from pushing them into the island).

You really can’t use anchors to stop, especially not when the ship gets this big. There’s a reason big ships get the right of way, changing anything about their movement is so hard. 100,000 tons is a lot of momentum. Nothing relying entirely on drag is stopping that quickly. You need to push backwards.


49 posted on 03/26/2024 1:15:56 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Red Badger
Black Swan Event

absolutely brilliant strategic attack

50 posted on 03/26/2024 1:25:16 PM PDT by Neanderthal ("Knowledge is good" - Emil Faber)
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To: Neanderthal

Knocking this bridge down would be a perfect response from Russia to NATO’s attacks on the Kerch bridge. Just saying.


51 posted on 03/26/2024 1:31:00 PM PDT by Neanderthal ("Knowledge is good" - Emil Faber)
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To: Salgak

They dropped the port anchor, but as expected, it did no good. An anchor has to catch on the bottom to stop the ship, and they were going too fast; the anchor “flew” across the bottom.


52 posted on 03/26/2024 1:39:47 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Lurker

Right, the smoke was from the ship backing down.


53 posted on 03/26/2024 1:40:21 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Rummyfan

What bridge?


54 posted on 03/26/2024 1:46:27 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: Red Badger

Shipping containers damaged by the ship hitting the bridge.

Were any of the illegals harmed?.


55 posted on 03/26/2024 1:47:37 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Salgak

You are correct, provided the anchor windlass been manned at the time, those sailors would have probably been injured or killed when the bridge structure fell on the front end of the ship. None of the crew was reported as injured or killed, therefore the focstle was probably unmanned at the time the ship hit the bridge support structure. JMO


56 posted on 03/26/2024 1:52:47 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: discostu

The ship was still in the harbor which should be a controlled area. Until it cleared that bridge it should have had escort tugs which serve to guarantee it stays in the deep channel. As soon as the ship started turning right one of those bigaxx tugs should have been on it. And they are powerful enough to keep it straight.

Looks to me like another case of working on the cheap.

Remember the Evergiven ship that hit an island just south of here, close to the Naval Academy, awhile back? It had left its escort behind and wandered out of the channel. Lot of dumbassness involved.


57 posted on 03/26/2024 1:56:01 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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To: OldWarBaby

That’s actually a really interesting point. I don’t know what the situation is with those docs. Do things usually get tugs? Are they escorted through there? I don’t know. Certainly a tugboat or 2 would have really useful there, they are the true emergency brakes of big ships.


58 posted on 03/26/2024 2:04:14 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Red Badger

WHY DIDN’T THEY DROP BOTH ANCHORS IMMEDIATELY!!!!


59 posted on 03/26/2024 2:13:03 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: matt04

The Sonny Liston Memorial Bridge.


60 posted on 03/26/2024 2:17:39 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (P01135809)
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