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Maine moves to join Democratic-led pact to elect president by popular vote instead of Electoral College
Washington Examiner ^ | April 3, 2024 | Misty Severi

Posted on 04/04/2024 12:46:48 PM PDT by grcuster

A new Maine bill was passed by the state legislature on Wednesday that would tie Maine’s Electoral College votes for president to the country’s popular vote.

The bill narrowly passed the state’s lower chamber in a 73-72 vote. It was then approved by the state Senate, and it now heads to the desk of Gov. Janet Mills (D-ME), who has not indicated whether she will sign the legislation. If she does, the state would join a national movement where each state in the agreement would assign their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the national popular vote.

“The Maine legislature’s approval of the NPV bill gets our country one step closer to a goal that already enjoys broad bipartisan support and simply makes sense: electing the president by popular vote,” former Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saul Anuzis told the Washington Examiner. “The National Popular Vote plan advances the principle of one-person, one-vote when electing the president. That’s good for every voter, the integrity of our elections, and the health of our democracy. Period.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: 2024election; democrats; democratsedition; demonicrats; election; electioninterference; electoralcollege; illegal; lawless; maine; sedition; tds; unconstitutional
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To: grcuster

Constitutionally, this doesn’t work no matter how clever they think they are. You cannot do ends around the Constitution because if you could, then you’d simply tax guns out of existence or or do the same with ammo or just prohibit ammo from being sold. Any of that is, of course, an infringement and cannot stand. Same with banding states together and awarding their electors based on the popular vote. No one’s paid close attention to this because they haven’t gotten to the number that the States involved have agreed is required to actually kick in this agreement, but we should be making a lot more noise about it and why it’s wrong.


41 posted on 04/04/2024 1:25:56 PM PDT by Dahoser (I finally figured out what to call him: Fakephonyfraudident Biden.)
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To: grcuster

We are a constitutional Republic not a Democracy. The Democrats want us to be a Democracy so all national elections would be decided by Democratic States on the East and West Coast and a few blue states in the middle of the country. Red states would not even to vote then as their votes would then be moot. Come on Republicans, challenge this in court before it’s too late.


42 posted on 04/04/2024 1:28:05 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: grcuster

The whole “popular vote” agenda is an attempt tyring to avoid the legal route of amending the constitution, which is what is required to abolish the electoral college, and the “popular vote” is a defacto method of trying to do that.


43 posted on 04/04/2024 1:34:07 PM PDT by Wuli (ena)
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To: stevio

Wonder what they’ll do if a Republican gets the popular vote?


Easy enough. Remember this has passed in states where democrats control both the legislatures and the governor. So if a Republican should win the national popular vote but loses in the state, the governor will call the legislature into emergency session and have them pass a law reverting to the old method of determining Electoral votes. You think they won’t?

Besides being Unconstitutional on it’s face, how’s this for a problem with the popular vote idea? The state with the largest number of voters, California, now takes weeks to count votes.


44 posted on 04/04/2024 1:34:31 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: grcuster
A National Popular Vote should be unconstitutional. We don't vote directly for the President because the President is not the ruler of the People.

The President is the executive officer of the federation of states. It's the states that elect the President to oversee the limited powers that the states delegated to the federal government.

A National Popular Vote, along with the 17th amendment, will kill the concept of sovereign states once and for all.

The whole National Popular Vote compact should be nullified on 14th amendment equal protection grounds. In compact states that voted with the so-called "national popular vote," those voters had their votes count. In compact states that voted against the national popular vote, those voters had their votes discarded.

There is no equal protection across all the states that their votes will be counted the same way.

-PJ

45 posted on 04/04/2024 1:37:02 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Agree


46 posted on 04/04/2024 1:56:25 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: grcuster

“ and simply makes sense: electing the president by popular vote,” former Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saul Anuzis told the Washington Examiner.”

Actually it makes NO sense since the President is appointed by the States, specifically by the 50 State Legislatures, and this is because to be President requires sufficient consensus among the States to acquire 270 votes.

Why should 75% of the voters in California, Illinois, and New York rule the small states?


47 posted on 04/04/2024 1:59:55 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: grcuster

IMO it’s a violation of the Constitution for states to enter into any agreement or “compact” (my word) without the consent of Congress. For example,the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is allowed...but only because it was approved by Congress.


48 posted on 04/04/2024 2:05:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: grcuster

This just means that a few national cheat centers will elect the president: KKKalifornia, Chicago and NYC.


49 posted on 04/04/2024 2:25:08 PM PDT by fwdude ( )
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To: stevio
I don't see how this changes much. The states joining the NPV movement are pretty reliable blue states, so it's not going to make a difference in an election unless, like you said, the Republican wins the popular vote nationally. They are just assuming that he won't win the popular vote. And, like others responded, they just change it back if the R wins the popular vote.

The problem would come in if they monkey with the legislative elections in a similar way.

50 posted on 04/04/2024 2:37:59 PM PDT by fwdude ( )
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To: grcuster

This is ass-backwards. You want to do away with the Electoral College (and totally end the nation BTW), amend The Constitution. Of course Dems can never be bothered with that.


51 posted on 04/04/2024 2:40:51 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.c)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It is blatantly unconstitutional.


52 posted on 04/04/2024 2:49:33 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.c)
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To: Dutch Boy

I like that. Take Illinois. Almost all the counties vote red, except for the ones up in Chicago in the big cities.


53 posted on 04/04/2024 2:52:08 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: packagingguy
Maine has to be the dumbest state in the nation. They once had a nice homogeneous low-crime population who were all on the same page. The then Maine said "we've got to keep up with the times and import some of them darkies and Somali Negroes."

The absudity is preposterous.

54 posted on 04/04/2024 3:01:05 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: grcuster

Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) is Un-Constitutional, because it subverts the primary purpose of the Electoral College:

For each state to vote as a member of the college of states - a weighted system, so that less populated states have some representation.

That more equitable representation among the states, is of course, in contrast to the wish of the communists and socialists, that the President be chosen by popular vote - leaving California and New York states, plus about three more states, choosing the President.


55 posted on 04/04/2024 3:09:56 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: grcuster

People have no idea how radical Maine has become. We should ask them to rename the place the Soviet State of Northern Massachusetts.


56 posted on 04/04/2024 3:13:37 PM PDT by turfmann
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To: grcuster

pesky US Constitution in the way of that liberal unicorn...


57 posted on 04/04/2024 3:16:09 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: grcuster

The Shut Up, Racist Peasants in the Backwoods Act.


58 posted on 04/04/2024 3:18:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: turfmann

not radical...just has a completely corrupted electoral process

clean up the vote and they’d be MAGA


59 posted on 04/04/2024 3:18:22 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: grcuster

The Founders knew what they were doing. The KNEW they didn’t want NYC or Philadelhia’s collective population to ramrod over the rest of the country’s and colonies’ interests. It’s the same way today - even worse.

This is a UNION of States, not frigging rat-infested megapopulation crap holes. There are more and values, wants, needs and goals of the entire UNION’s states that are rightly made to be part of the decision fabric in the Electoral College. Doing this is ‘difficult’ states for the Democrats is a mistake and would only result in a small d democratic disaster. This country ends - either on its on by democracy or by Civil War.


60 posted on 04/04/2024 3:26:18 PM PDT by Gaffer
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