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Russia's meat grinder soldiers - 50,000 confirmed dead
BBC ^ | April 17 | By Olga Ivshina, Becky Dale & Kirstie Brewer

Posted on 04/17/2024 10:04:26 AM PDT by RandFan

Russia's military death toll in Ukraine has now passed the 50,000 mark, the BBC can confirm.

In the second 12 months on the front line - as Moscow pushed its so-called meat grinder strategy - we found the body count was nearly 25% higher than in the first year.

BBC Russian, independent media group Mediazona and volunteers have been counting deaths since February 2022.

New graves in cemeteries helped provide the names of many soldiers.

Our teams also combed through open-source information from official reports, newspapers and social media.

More than 27,300 Russian soldiers died in the second year of combat - according to our findings - a reflection of how territorial gains have come at a huge human cost.

Russia has responded to the BBC's report saying only the defence ministry in Moscow can give this kind of information.

The term meat grinder has been used to describe the way Moscow sends waves of soldiers forward relentlessly to try to wear down Ukrainian forces and expose their locations to Russian artillery.

The overall death toll - of more than 50,000 - is eight times higher than the only official public acknowledgement of fatality numbers ever given by Moscow in September 2022.

The actual number of Russian deaths is likely to be much higher.

Our analysis does not include the deaths of militia in Russian-occupied Donetsk and Luhansk - in eastern Ukraine. If they were added, the death toll on the Russian side would be even higher.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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War is brutal
1 posted on 04/17/2024 10:04:26 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

8 thou to go to beat the US losses in Nam


2 posted on 04/17/2024 10:07:25 AM PDT by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: RandFan

Hang on, I thought the total Russian dead in Ukraine was somewhere in the vicinity of 300,000? These numbers keep changing, and not in a reliable way.


3 posted on 04/17/2024 10:08:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: RandFan

Good job Ukraine !


4 posted on 04/17/2024 10:09:06 AM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: al baby

Yep, 58,220 US in Vietnam. No sympathy for Russian invaders from me.


5 posted on 04/17/2024 10:10:25 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: RandFan

The BBC and “Mediazona” confirms................

Mediazona set up for the Ukraine war reporting.....

Please Donate:

https://donate.zona.media/en


6 posted on 04/17/2024 10:11:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Magnum44

Am I wrong to infer that you agree with the killing of 58k U.S. soldiers in Vietnam because the U.S. invaded Vietnam?


7 posted on 04/17/2024 10:13:16 AM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: Magnum44

My neighbor of close to 25 years wonderful man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEJ_yWd-U4w&t=22s


8 posted on 04/17/2024 10:15:10 AM PDT by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: lonestar67

You would be wrong


9 posted on 04/17/2024 10:15:28 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: lonestar67

And we did not invade S. Vietnam.


10 posted on 04/17/2024 10:19:16 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

Agreed


11 posted on 04/17/2024 10:22:44 AM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: lonestar67; Magnum44

Wait, it sounds like you buy the communist narrative. The U.S. intervened in a civil war, on one of the sides.


12 posted on 04/17/2024 10:26:11 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan

Still waiting for Ukraine losses.


13 posted on 04/17/2024 10:28:12 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: RandFan

a very conservative estimate, the actual number is likely over 130,000 dead, as casualties are well past 456,000.


14 posted on 04/17/2024 10:31:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: nickcarraway

Not what I was intending to imply at all. My point was simple and its not original here on FR. We lost 58,000 supporting S. Vietnam and the bulk of the losses were a result of Soviet supplying of arms to communist N. Vietnam. That was over a decade or more. The russians have lost 50k plus in two years of their ‘special military op’ (invasion) of Ukraine and they bitch about US or NATO support. Russia can piss up a rope.

Now not to get all wound up in the Zeeper vs Putinista waste of time argument, my support of the Ukraine is not to say I support corrupt government anywhere, not here in the US, not in Ukraine, and not in Russia. I also know we have problems here at home that need to be dealt with (borders, spending, etc) But evil, unopposed, begets evil. So I do support efforts to make this invasion by russia as painful as possible for russia for as long as they are there.


15 posted on 04/17/2024 10:35:22 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SaxxonWoods

You dont have to wait, they are high. You would expect them to be given the disparity of force. Ukraine was, and remains, the underdog in this conflict (that they did not initiate).


16 posted on 04/17/2024 10:37:39 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SeekAndFind

Special deal for friends of RIck, 39,375 deaths. Whatever the number it’s just the BBC branch of MI-6 spouting propaganda. How about some more COVID/Trump Russia conspiracy/no widespread voter fraud propaganda.


17 posted on 04/17/2024 10:39:48 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Gaffer; Admin Moderator

shilling alert


18 posted on 04/17/2024 10:45:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: SeekAndFind

OOh, the BBC!! The northern office of Hamas, apparently. Yeah, accept those numbers.


19 posted on 04/17/2024 10:49:34 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: RandFan
The Russkies lost 81,116 dead or missing in the Battle of Berlin 16 April – 2 May 1945 (2 weeks and 2 days)

"Mr. Ambassador, I mean, you take your average Russkie, we all know how much guts he's got. Hell, lookit all them Nazis killed off and they still wouldn't quit." - General "Buck" Turgidson (Dr. Strangelove, 1964).

20 posted on 04/17/2024 10:59:40 AM PDT by Sooth2222 (“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.” /"Every nation has the government it deserves.” )
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