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Biden DOJ Says Trump Is First President To Face Criminal Prosecution Because Predecessors Committed No ‘Crimes’
The Daily Caller ^ | April 25, 2024 | Jason Cohen

Posted on 04/26/2024 1:14:51 PM PDT by Twotone

The lawyer representing special counsel Jack Smith on Thursday asserted that the reason former President Donald Trump is the first president to face criminal charges is because his predecessors did not commit any crimes.

Department of Justice counselor to Smith, Michael Dreeben, went before the Supreme Court to argue presidents should not have constitutional immunity from prosecution for official acts conducted during their presidency. Dreeben suggested that no president until Trump has ever committed crimes when Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas questioned him about no other president having faced prosecutions.

“Over the not-so-distant past … certain presidents have engaged in various activity, coups or operations like Operation Mongoose, when I was a teenager, and yet there were no prosecutions,” Thomas said. “Why? If what you’re saying is right, it would seem that would have been ripe for criminal prosecution of someone.”

“So Justice Thomas, I think this is a central question,” Dreeben responded. “The reason why there have not been prior criminal prosecutions is that there were not crimes.”

The Supreme Court consented in February to hear Trump’s argument to dismiss his federal election interference case in Washington, D.C., based on presidential immunity. Trump was not permitted to attend the oral arguments as New York Judge Juan Merchan ordered him to remain at his trial regarding an alleged $130,000 payout to porn star Stormy Daniels.

“You raise the question about potential overseas taking of life and the Office of Legal Counsel has addressed this quite specifically,” Dreeben added. “There is a background principle of criminal law, called the public authority exception to liability, and it is read into federal law unless Congress takes specific action to oust it, which it never has done as far as I’m aware.”

Smith claimed in December that Trump’s immunity argument, if successful, would protect presidents who order the murder or framing of political opponents.

Trump’s attorney Dean John Sauer argued on Thursday that a president may have criminal immunity for staging a coup after a liberal justice presented him with a hypothetical.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: immunity; jasoncohen; lyingjesters; michaeldreeben; supremecourt; trump

1 posted on 04/26/2024 1:14:51 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

DOJ aka Department of Jokers


2 posted on 04/26/2024 1:16:32 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Twotone

We’ve certainly established that Obama set up assassinations of US citizens using drones. I guess murder isn’t a crime anymore.


3 posted on 04/26/2024 1:17:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: Twotone

Ya RIGHT!! - Like when Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broderick???


4 posted on 04/26/2024 1:18:22 PM PDT by high info voter (Delivery )
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To: Twotone
"The lawyer representing special counsel Jack Smith on Thursday asserted that the reason former President Donald Trump is the first president to face criminal charges is because his predecessors did not commit any crimes."

So that whole Watergate thing that Woodward and Bernstein have been dining on for years was much ado about nothing?

5 posted on 04/26/2024 1:18:32 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Twotone

what a convenient answer.


6 posted on 04/26/2024 1:18:38 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Twotone

LMAO

Biden did much WORSE with documents, but was deemed to old and feeble to stand trial!!!!


7 posted on 04/26/2024 1:19:38 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Twotone
"Smith claimed in December that Trump’s immunity argument, if successful, would protect presidents who order the murder or framing of political opponents."

Sorta like those who order drone strikes on American citizens?

8 posted on 04/26/2024 1:20:26 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Twotone

The stupid coming out of this moron is just ‘Fast and furious’, isn’t it?


9 posted on 04/26/2024 1:20:29 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was off the ping list.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

From what I’ve been reading recently, it looks like Watergate was a total frame-up of Nixon. Lots of CIA involvement.

Biden himself should be under indictment for criminal behavior. I guess being Democrat gives him a pass.


10 posted on 04/26/2024 1:22:37 PM PDT by Twotone (We have to stop punishing ourselves for considering things that once seemed crazy. - B. Weinstein)
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To: Twotone

My vote for the single stupidest testimony yesterday in an ocean of stupidity.


11 posted on 04/26/2024 1:23:15 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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Bill Clinton gave missile technology to China through Bernard Schwartz and Loral Space & Communications for campaign donations. Prior to that, China couldn't launch a rocket that didn't explode.

That was nearly one of the questions that SCOTUS hypothesized yesterday.

-PJ

12 posted on 04/26/2024 1:27:05 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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I told you, I TOLD YOU! Dick Nixon was not a crook! Finally we have confirmation from the DOJ!


13 posted on 04/26/2024 1:35:24 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: Twotone

Golly! A Gaslighting Singularity!
No Truth can penetrate it’s event horizon...


14 posted on 04/26/2024 3:09:38 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-A)
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That’s not what they were saying about Reagan. Pretty sure they would have indicted him over any # of bogus claims after he left office, if they could have.


15 posted on 04/26/2024 3:15:46 PM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: high info voter
Rapin' Bill Clinton lied in a federal judge's face.

Perjury - which is a felony.

And it was slam-dunk.

16 posted on 04/26/2024 3:22:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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To: Twotone

biden is proposing changes to the US Constitution

add the following phrase to the first 10 amendments

“except Trump or any other enemy of the state”

h/t kathy hochul


17 posted on 04/26/2024 6:35:49 PM PDT by joshua c
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To: Twotone
“The reason why there have not been prior criminal prosecutions is that there were not crimes.”

Clinton. Waco. Posse Comitatus Act. Direct violation.

18 posted on 04/26/2024 6:40:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Twotone
The lawyer representing special counsel Jack Smith on Thursday asserted that the reason former President Donald Trump is the first president to face criminal charges is because his predecessors did not commit any crimes.

No mention of the current President--Joe Biden--who is about to be Impeached for criminally selling his political influence for cash and knowingly participating in an illegal money-laundering scheme to distribute the hot cash among family members.

19 posted on 04/26/2024 11:01:26 PM PDT by henbane ( WAKE UP, AMERICA! The Dems & RINOs are eating you alive!)
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To: Twotone

JFK possibly authorized the coup to overthrow of Vietnamese President Diem and the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba was unauthorized. While Nixon resigned because of the Watergate burglary, he was not subsequently prosecuted.


20 posted on 04/27/2024 9:30:16 AM PDT by The Great RJ ( )
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