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The Trustworthiness of Polls Has Completely Tanked, Due to Propping Up the Cheating
Townhall ^ | 04/29/2024 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 04/29/2024 8:37:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

We all know that polls are biased, but the bias has reached a frenzy this year, with mainstream pollsters starting to pretend that Joe Biden is wildly popular when we all know it’s not true. Everyone, including the most hardcore progressives, knows he has fairly advanced dementia or Alzheimer’s and is merely a puppet at this point, controlled by powerful Democrat operatives behind the scenes writing what he says on the teleprompter. His support is manufactured.

Since pollsters are well aware of the cheating, we can expect them to sway their polls to show Biden leading as it gets closer to the election. Currently, despite the “shock polls” that the formerly conservative Drudge Report keeps highlighting with Biden bizarrely far in the lead, most of the regular polls show Trump ahead. Notably, Trump is leading in almost all of the swing states according to these polls. 

Kaplan Strategies, a bipartisan pollster, has Trump way up in the swing states of Michigan and Wisconsin, 15 points and 10 points respectively. He’s up five points in Pennsylvania and four points in Arizona. Coincidentally, the reputable and accurate Rasmussen Reports had Trump up four points a few days before the 2020 election. The also respectableTrafalgar Group had him up three points. Most people who believe Trump really won that election suspect he won by about that margin in Arizona. 

However, MSM polls like Morning Consult, Suffolk, Echelon Insights and Ipsos already have Biden ahead. 

There are a few honest pollsters, like Rasmussen, Trafalgar Group, and People’s Pundit Daily. Rasmussen had Trump up six points over Biden in a February poll. Unlike the left-wing biased pollsters, Rasmussen doesn’t skew their polls to show Trump up by drastic amounts.

One trick pollsters have used for years is to show the Democratic candidate ahead for most of the race, in order to demoralize the right and provide momentum to the left. This is known as the “bandwagon effect.” When Election Day gets close, polling results then tighten to show the Republicans doing better, which is done to protect the credibility of the pollster and make it look like the voters had changed their minds. 

Since the cheating started, the pollsters now do the opposite; they make the Democrats look like they’re doing better the closer it gets to the election. They’re likely going to use abortion as their excuse, unless something else convenient pops up. Democrats claim that abortion affects elections, but voters rank it lower in importance than inflation, crime and immigration. Jessica Anderson writing at The Federalist noted how‘mainstream’ pollsters oversample college-educated voters and Democrats.” Many of them don’t even try to hide it, blatantly including the breakdown of who they polled. 

Longtime pro-life writer Steve Ertelt, writing at LifeNews, showed how polls have started being skewed to elicit pro-abortion responses prior to the election. He observed about a Kaiser Family Foundation poll from February, “[O]ne question frames abortion as a health-care issue. Another asks about abortion in the case of a ‘pregnancy emergency.’ Furthermore, a body of polling data shows that responses to survey questions can often be influenced by previous questions.” 

However, he noted that the poll did provide some useful information, such as that only “about 12 percent of voters cite abortion as the most important issue to their vote in 2024.” An NBC poll from November found that 18% of voters would vote for or against a candidate based on their position on abortion. Coincidentally, about 22% of women have had an abortion. Might that number merely be reflective of most of the women who have had an abortion, so it’s not really reflective of general voters, and that’s why it’s as high as it is and doesn’t change? 

I predict the Democrats are going to cheat and steal this election again, but will claim their “victory” is due to women coming out to vote, having been riled up by states attempting to restrict abortion after Jackson v. Dobbs. In reality, after Jackson v. Dobbs reversed Roe v. Wade, pro-life candidate Kari Lake beat pro-abortion Katie Hobbs by a whopping eight points in the Arizona gubernatorial race, according to a Rasmussen exit poll. There was no backlash. 

The site FiveThirtyEight compiles polls, and rates pollsters on how accurate they are. However, since 2020 these ratings cannot be trusted due to the cheating in elections. Rasmussen Reports is widely considered on the right as one of the most accurate pollsters for how the 2020 and 2020 elections should have turned out without the cheating. So they went from one of the most highly rated pollsters to the bottom, not even half a star out of three. 

Instead, the highest rated pollsters are MSM: The New York Times/Siena College polls are rated number one, and ABC News/The Washington Post is rated number two. Immediately prior to the 2020 election, The New York Times/Siena College poll had Biden beating Trump 50-41%, which is laughable, “unmoved from 49-41% last month.” That same pollster has the two about tied in a poll this month, which is always a safe position this far ahead of the election. 

Similarly, an ABC News/The Washington Post poll taken right before the 2020 election showed Biden ahead by 12 points. That pollster doesn’t appear to have taken any recent polls of the 2024 election; the last one was in September 2023 with Trump winning.

But as you can see, instead of being the most accurate pollsters, those two were the most wildly inaccurate, no one really believes that Biden got 81 million votes. What does this mean? Most pollsters are now utterly useless. They are merely predicting what will be the results after the cheating. The one use they have is to show us how much the Democrats intend to cheat. If their polls immediately prior to the election show a blue wave despite how popular we all know Trump is, we’re in real trouble.  



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; cheating; polls
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1 posted on 04/29/2024 8:37:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If the cheat and successfully steal it again, will it be legal to object?


2 posted on 04/29/2024 8:41:19 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: SeekAndFind

I have lied to pollsters since at least the start of the Obama years. That’s when I finally woke up to the Uniparty and its complete control of media and any institutions touching upon politics and government.


3 posted on 04/29/2024 8:41:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

If they


4 posted on 04/29/2024 8:41:36 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: SeekAndFind
My rule of thumb (and not just recently) -- Be skeptical of all "poll" results, especially if they tell you what you want to hear.
5 posted on 04/29/2024 8:43:14 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: PGR88

This Guy never speaks to pollsters

understandable why some might do so though


6 posted on 04/29/2024 8:43:17 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

No.


7 posted on 04/29/2024 8:43:45 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

I stopped believing polls when Reagan was telling Nuke jokes on a hot mike.


8 posted on 04/29/2024 8:44:39 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: SeekAndFind

At this point, I’m not sure what the point of a poll is.

They are always used as tools of manipulation for the future and not as a gathering of data from how people felt a week ago.

The election will tell us the winner.
The polls before the election are just trying to game the system.


9 posted on 04/29/2024 8:45:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: one guy in new jersey

It already is if you are an (R).


10 posted on 04/29/2024 8:45:46 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

RE: If the cheat and successfully steal it again, will it be legal to object?

It ought to be LEGAL and PROTECTED speech, but you can be the that Deep State in cahoots with the Biden administration will use lawfare to ruin any objectors by forcing them to spend millions on legal fees. Just ask Peter Navarro, Rudy Giuliani and yes, Donald Trump himself.


11 posted on 04/29/2024 8:45:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What is the appropriate response of a Trump supporter if/when contacted by a pollster?

1. Lie about your choices
2. Curse the pollster
3. Lie and curse the pollster
4. Fake a heart attack while on the call
5. All the above


12 posted on 04/29/2024 8:46:06 AM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Salman
My rule of thumb (and not just recently) -- Be skeptical of all "poll" results, especially if they tell you what you want to hear.

Indeed.

This is the path of wisdom.

13 posted on 04/29/2024 8:47:04 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: PGR88
"Control the messaging and you control the nation"

-Barry Obama

Facts and realities don't matter as long as you control the messaging. Obama was very focused on this. He knew it takes time. His minions were committed and unrelenting on taking over mass media, news organizations, public schools, and even social media, with inserting propaganda and removing unfavorable messaging from unauthorized sources.

14 posted on 04/29/2024 8:49:45 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I gallup away from any poll.

Seriously...an honest poll requires a scientific research approach, and that is no longer possible. On the pollster side, obtaining a truly balanced sample, and asking truly neutral questions, can’t be done, because no one can define what would constitute ‘balance’ and there is no way to word questions to keep them from demonstrating bias.

On the other side, the Heisenberg effect is so strong that it is impossible to snapshot the public: anybody being polled is changing the response based on being polled—including of course people who refuse to respond, along with people who are afraid of the “wrong” response, and people who purposefully want to “Operation Chaos” the responses.


15 posted on 04/29/2024 8:50:07 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SeekAndFind

The cheating factor, and theft of elections, never show up before the elections. Thus polls can’t be trusted, and even the results of elections can’t be trusted.

Polls are meant to give hope to candidates and to committed voters who will never vote for the opposition. Polls are always unreliable and never reflect what the end result will be, not with the current state of politics and ‘win at any cost’ policies of the different parties, especially the thieving democrats who mean to get the presidency at any cost. The presidency is where the power is at, and democrats will never let the voters make the decision. Democrats aim to win the presidency forever, and they cannot let any kind of opposition to get close to taking it from them.


16 posted on 04/29/2024 8:52:29 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: SeekAndFind

All polls commissioned by the main stream media are push polls.


17 posted on 04/29/2024 8:53:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

Think about it. How many decent, rational people will take a phone call from a perfect stranger and share with them their political opinions?


18 posted on 04/29/2024 8:53:58 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SeekAndFind

Never ceases to amaze me how short peoples memories are.

I point to the “great red wave” pre-election polling of 2022.....and as far as the SCOTUS abortion decision leak goes, the polling was reporting that it was gonna be such a slam du k that shouldn’t have even mattered.

IMO all polling should be outlawed. It’s now been weaponized to push a particular narrative to influence how people vote.


19 posted on 04/29/2024 8:54:06 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Polls are just more manipulation spit out by the MSM.


20 posted on 04/29/2024 8:56:07 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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