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THE HISTORY OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT
Second Amendment Law Library - Valparaiso U. Law Review ^ | FR post 09-04-01 | David E. Vandercoy

Posted on 09/04/2001 6:14:22 PM PDT by vannrox

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To: vannrox
Yet another good read. I hope that you all are keeping up with this.
Dusting out the attic...this thread sure didn't get much attention. I keep on keeping on though. The tortoise and the hare.

If this van's rocking don't bother knocking

21 posted on 01/28/2002 10:52:16 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Askel5; AtticusX; editor-surveyor; whoever; Snow Bunny; Billie; Mercuria; AnnaZ; tex-oma...
Find a place to set a spell, brush aside the dust, and open this rustic tome.
22 posted on 01/28/2002 11:00:29 PM PST by philman_36
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire; Lady Jenn; Kithlyara; AZ Spartacus; feinswinesuksass; abigail2; AnneJustice4All...
THANK YOU, PHILMAN!!!

Bookmarking for my profile page!!

23 posted on 01/29/2002 4:08:02 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
Thanks for the ping on this learned article.
I might only have time to cruise the article, but I noticed that there is
no reference to Lawrence (sp?) Tribe, the constitutional law Professor that
has slowly, grudgingly come to the idea that the Second Amendment does describe a
personal right.
And this from a Clinton apologist.
Could be this is a recent conclusion of Tribe, thus not in this paper.
24 posted on 01/29/2002 4:27:32 PM PST by VOA
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To: vannrox
Awesome ! Outstanding work ! Printed, bookmarked and forwarded to all my RKBA contacts........

Stay Safe !

25 posted on 01/29/2002 9:11:52 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Squantos
Check out the grim story from Maryland.... the future of RKBA does not look bright.
26 posted on 01/29/2002 9:16:09 PM PST by Travis McGee
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BUMP for later viewing!
27 posted on 01/29/2002 9:22:41 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Travis McGee
Name added to list for future reference......... tick !

Stay Safe !

28 posted on 01/29/2002 9:35:45 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Squantos
Near the top of the list.
29 posted on 01/29/2002 9:50:54 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Mercuria
Pretty words.
And quite meaningless to Socialists.
Socialists who will not abide by those rules; or any others, for that matter.

...just ask Mr. Arnold of Maryland, what I mean.

30 posted on 01/30/2002 2:55:59 AM PST by Landru
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To: Mercuria
Stop the attacks on our God given Rights by the extreme wacko left !!

Guns Save Lives !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed !!

An Armed Citizen, Is A Safe Citizen !!

No Guns, No Rights !!

Molon Labe !!

31 posted on 01/30/2002 10:39:39 AM PST by blackie
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To: Mercuria
Thanks for the link!
32 posted on 01/30/2002 2:01:27 PM PST by reformjoy
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To: vannrox
A very scholarly work.

One might add, that the philosophy recognized by the author as pertaining to private arms, and a citizenry responsible for preserving their freedom, is the same philosophy of individual responsibility that made the American economic miracle materialize.

In every particular, the Founding Fathers trusted our future to responsible individuals. As we lose that sense of individual responsibility, we lose everything that made America unique. Since that original sense arose in a major sense from the actual experiences of the pre-Revolutionary Settler societies; once really lost, it is extremely unlikely that the urbanized multi-cultured, polyglot population of today, will ever recover it. The idiotic pursuit of restricted private arms closely parallels the overall assault upon our Cultural heritage.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

33 posted on 01/30/2002 2:21:20 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: reformjoy
The 2ndLawLib.org site is no more, but some of the content is available on www.constitution.org/2ll/2ll.htm , including the Vandercopy paper.
34 posted on 01/30/2002 2:27:01 PM PST by 76Tiger
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To: vannrox
Bump and Bookmarked.
35 posted on 01/30/2002 2:27:38 PM PST by Double Tap
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To: 76Tiger
er, make that Vandercoy...
36 posted on 01/30/2002 2:28:52 PM PST by 76Tiger
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To: Double Tap
OK, thats strange, how do I bookmark the thread?
37 posted on 01/30/2002 2:29:15 PM PST by Double Tap
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To: Double Tap
See this between the last of the article & comment?

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38 posted on 01/30/2002 2:42:08 PM PST by backhoe
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To: vannrox
[5] See Don P. Kates, Jr., Handgun Prohibition and the Original Meaning of the Second Amendment, 82 Mich. L. Rev. 204, 207 (1983). The ACLU's summary of its national board's action at the June 14-15, 1980, meeting sets out the following policy considerations: The setting in which the Second Amendment was proposed and adopted demonstrates that the right to bear arms is a collective one existing only in the collective population of each state for the purpose of maintaining an effective state militia. The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court's long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the preservation of efficiency of a well regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore there is no constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms.

The ACLU is resting their entire argument on Supreme Court rulings that do not exist. I usually offer a thousand dollars to any person who can cite a US Supreme Court decision that says this.
Anyone want to guess whether I'll ever write that check?

39 posted on 01/30/2002 2:58:04 PM PST by sig226
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