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Posted on 09/05/2001 7:19:53 PM PDT by Askel5

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Searched the web for IRA "+own +goal" with Safesearch on. Results 1 - 69 of about 191.

Google Searched the web for bomb "+own +goal" with Safesearch on. Results 1 - 100 of about 685.

Google Searched the web for Israel "+work +accident " Results 1 - 100 of about 1,750.

To be fair, Google narrowed that last search with "+bomb" bringing the 1,750 down to a mere 1,410 entries.

Seems odd that the vanilla "own goal" and bomb (which one might assume would cover ALL English stories regarding ANY bomber -- IRA, Palestinian or otherwise -- who fudged) would exceed the Bomb Work Accidents of Israel.

I, for one, was surprised. Hadn't "homed in" on the Work Accident lingo as yet and realize now I missed the boat on this particular bit of Newspeak.

1 posted on 09/05/2001 7:19:53 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Legion59

2 posted on 09/05/2001 7:23:41 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: LSJohn independentmind
Hope you won't mind my bumping you to an anonymous short story for Security-Minded sorts.
3 posted on 09/05/2001 7:27:21 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
If they were running out of time they may try launching the pulse when there were plenty of Palestinians in close proximity.

One wonders what the British policy is, concerning the "close proximity" of undifferentiated Irish.

4 posted on 09/05/2001 7:57:11 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Askel5
it's not the pulse that gets them it's the static from the polyester the palestinians wear. grounding strap, we don't need no stinking grounding strap.
5 posted on 09/05/2001 8:14:06 PM PDT by IRtorqued
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To: Askel5
Following the deaths of six Palestinians in an early morning explosion, an ugly Israeli euphemism has been resurrected. - What The Middle East Papers Say
6 posted on 09/05/2001 8:32:38 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Askel5
Thanks for the bump. I was unfamiliar with both expressions.
7 posted on 09/06/2001 6:54:17 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: Askel5
Remember that "Earth First!" (FOE?) crazy who was blown up by the bomb she built? I believe it was under the seat of her car when it went.

Hell of a way to get a hysterectomy.

--Boris

8 posted on 09/06/2001 7:30:10 AM PDT by boris
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To: Askel5
Strange that they're releasing this much info-wonder if this story is disinformation- i.e. put the word out that having a bomb or bomb making material can be dangerous to your health, and the health of your family.

It would seem pretty simple for demo guys to switch to pyrotechic fuses.

9 posted on 09/06/2001 7:40:28 AM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: fourdeuce82d
Well ... for the Very Bright among the bombmakers, it might cause them to think twice before helping the Cause without express permission or encouragement to do so. You don't want to end up dead because you're encroaching on some other guy's territory or making the Don look bad with your Good Works.

This story certainly isn't disinformation, just a musing by a very security-conscious sort with whom I had a discussion on this a long time ago -- about the time Clinton dropped the football -- when some guy scored an own goal in his garage after picking up the phone in his house as the feds closed in.

HOWEVER ... I truly was amazed by the Google returns. Particularly given the one chiming in of the PA on the "work accident" bit I happened to open. That -- and my hoping to get some comments or insights like yours -- prompted me to go ahead and post it.

Given the arresting disparity in Google returns, I do indeed believe someone's Sending a Message.

As with the Gore campaign (wherein Mr. Environment flooded a dam for a photo op, brought up the Love Canal out of the blue, let his friends at Oxy crank a seven-year pipeling itch with the Injuns in Colombia, fought with NOW and PP over his pro-life record and got locked out of his office by angry gays) it's sometimes hard to get the point across to the Totally Brainwashed Sorts you've worked so long and so hard to dumb down in the name of women's rights, black power, gay pride ... Allah ... or whatever other bit of balkanization works best.

If you wouldn't mind explaining (it's not my forte by any means) ... if pyrotechnic fuses would do the trick as end-run round the pulse, (1) is there any technology which likewise allows for Security Services to sweep an auditorium, building or perimeter clean of explosives rigged thus and (2) are there big drawbacks to pyrotechnics which make them undesirable as a rule?

10 posted on 09/06/2001 9:38:39 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Senator Pardek
Nice catch.

I saw the necklace thread, btw. It's enough to make one weep.

Beats talking about her strong stand in favor of embryonic stem cell research, I guess.

Collective IQ of 5 on those threads. Even including the really Smart types who fawn fawn fawn only in an effort to whip the really Stupid into a frenzy of Icon worship.

11 posted on 09/06/2001 9:44:49 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
(1) is there any technology which likewise allows for Security Services to sweep an auditorium, building or perimeter clean of explosives rigged thus and (2) are there big drawbacks to pyrotechnics which make them undesirable as a rule?

I'm not a demo expert, but I've seen people play them on TV *grin*

All I know is what they showed us in the army, and stuff I've read since:

Re 1) far as I know, there are sniffers (canine & electronic) that can detect the presence of explosives, but I don't know of any technology that can detonate them remotely.

Re 2) Only thing I can think of is a fuse train isn't instantaneous- but even there, i would think an instantaneous grenade fuse (like in a smoke grenade) attached to some det cord leading into your charge would do the trick.

Lefty? Stumps? 3 Finger Bob? Any ex-demo boys out there who could clear this up?

12 posted on 09/06/2001 2:22:25 PM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: fourdeuce82d
Lol ...

I'll start searching and flag a few folks that look like they may know more.

I'm curious.

13 posted on 09/06/2001 3:17:10 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Kristinn
Hey ... are these the guys always across the street from us? Prop1.org

Suitcase Bomb -- Misc. News Refs -- 12/7/90-1/26/00

14 posted on 09/06/2001 3:49:57 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Senator Pardek Legion59
"Czech" this out!

Odd little number called "Who's Listening" ('97) from Infowar.

15 posted on 09/06/2001 3:56:22 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I saw the necklace thread, btw. It's enough to make one weep.

At first, I thought you were referring to some thread concerning atrocities committed by the ANC is SA.

Then I sez to myself "hey Pardek, this is FR 2001 - you're thinking (at least) one level too deep!!!"

16 posted on 09/06/2001 3:57:56 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
LOL ... you're more wicked than I.

Actually, as for necklacing ... it's happened more than once here in New Orleans since I've been here.

We're more like "de islands" than the U.S., IMHO.

17 posted on 09/06/2001 4:06:39 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Senator Pardek
Funny you bring up the ANC, though.

I've just wasted about 10 minutes scanning through a LENGTHY Do's and Don'ts for ANC members re: keeping safe sensitive materials, keeping an eye peeled for surveillance and keeping alive by steering clear of car bombs and other booby traps. Interesting, actually.

18 posted on 09/06/2001 4:08:04 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Excellent article! I was wondering why so many bombmakers were getting blown up. You would have thought they were experts by now. Thanks for the update.
19 posted on 09/06/2001 4:19:01 PM PDT by ColoradoAce
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To: Askel5
"Funny you bring up the ANC, though. I've just wasted about 10 minutes scanning through a LENGTHY Do's and Don'ts for ANC members re: keeping safe sensitive materials, keeping an eye peeled for surveillance and keeping alive by steering clear of car bombs and other booby traps. Interesting, actually. "

We're talking African National Congress?

The previous SA regime had a sort of psy-ops deal where they had an agent infiltrate some ANC gang, and provide them w/antipersonnel grenades. With instantaneous fusing..."Freeeeee... Nelson Mandeeeeeeela, freeee BANG oww oww oww..."

20 posted on 09/06/2001 6:48:14 PM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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