Posted on 09/07/2001 11:16:11 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
Maybe they would if their welfare check failed to arrive. Why can't this concept be understood by all the neo-conservatives here? We ALREADY HAVE a labor class, but we pay them NOT to work. And, we pay to import Mexican labor, who work very hard, send the majority of their tax-free wages back to Mexico (propping up THEIR economy), while their spouses and children ALSO collect on our social services.
So, we pay Americans not to work, we pay the families of Mexican workers not to work, the Mexican workers pay no taxes, and their income gets sent back to Mexico. Is that fair to the American taxpayer?
Full amnesty for all, no.
No, just for Mexicans.
But we need a solution to keep hard working willing people here.
We have potentially hard-working people here already. The reason they aren't currently working hard is because there is no incentive to work. They are receiving free taxpayer money to stay at home.
And working on solutions to help can only help to open the door just enough for our Spanish immigrants to peek at what the differences are between the 2 parties. I tell you what, if all of us here took the time to volunteer and talk to minorities on party politics, be a neighborly person, we could make some progress.
The GOP used to be the party of America, the Constitution, and against socialist handouts. Now, the GOP seems to be the Mexico-First Party.
P.S. One other thing , President Bush has spent his life in Texas. He has been around the latin heritage and culture quite a bit. He knows it. Hell,his nephews and nieces are 1/2 spanish. His brother is married to a mexican woman. His intentions may be very sincere and thoughtful.
You're right. They may be. And he also may be splintering the GOP into two factions that will keep the party out of office in the future.
Faction #1: Neo-Conservatives who support importing cheap labor from Mexico. (It's much easier than reforming welfare and strengthening our borders, that's for sure.) Plus, the idea of a North American Union to compete with the E.U. seems more important than American borders, language and culture.
Faction #2: Conservative Constitutionalists, who believe in sovereignty and borders. These poor "extremist" saps are still around. They wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
What I have a problem with is our immigration policies in general... they're a disaster and all we're doing is importing poverty and the american taxpayer is the big loser.
The same thing that is happening to whites in South Arfica & Zimbawe. It won't be pretty!
So Bush made a bad decision for purely political reasons, and then gets no political benefit from it. That is the entire point. Bush isn't going to get Democratic voters by taking a position contrary to his conservatism. You will NEVER outbid a Democrat.
Bush needs to come at it from the opposite direction, and seek to EDUCATE Hispanics and other potential Republicans that they too stand for life, lower taxes, and more freedom through less government, and that their families are better off that way.
Hispanics are overwhelmingly Catholic, the Catholic church is overwhelmingly pro-life, and yet Hispanics vote overwhelmingly pro-abortion. Solution? Do waves of photo ops, public statements and policy proposals with pro-life Catholic bishops, priests, and lay leaders, repeating over and over, "The Catholic Church has stood boldly for the unborn. They are a pro-life institution. I too am pro-life and will always defend the unborn. Its good for families and children."
With enough educations, Hispanics at large with eventually realize that their religion is pro-life, and that there families and children are better off in a pro-life culture. Eventually that will transfer to the ballot box.
The GOP did not win rural America by hawking every farm subsidy known to man. They did it by being culturally and fiscally conservative, and making rural dwellers understand that they were too.
Sorry for the long post, but its time the GOP took the bull by the horns and began to lead instead of trying to find how best to cater to non-GOP voters leftist sympathies.
I don't buy your assumption that President Bush's decision to withdraw from Vieques was made for the purpose of picking up Hispanic support.
As I understand the facts, Congress passed a bill last year allowing the citizens on Vieques to vote on whether we could stay. It was obvious that the vote was going to go against us. This would have been a tremendous anti-American publicity disaster. So instead of letting a couple thousand locals kick the American military off their island, President Bush prempted them by announcing that we would leave in a couple years.
Sort of like a person resigning from his job instead of being fired.
Any comment on the rest of the post?
Thats the point. A GOP that engages in ethnic pandering may suddenly become attractive to the group being pandered to (arguably) but it will turn off those of us who utterly despise and believe such tactics are poison to the nation as a whole.
What green card?
At least three times on this thread you've written "dirt poor people"...
What do you have against poor people that want to work?
They pay taxes, are family oriented, religious and coming whether you like it or not.
They are already here. Fight or accept, it's in the numbers.
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