"We Were Soldiers.." IA Drang Battle THREAD II

Icon Productions and the Book.."We Were Soldiers Once.....and Young" | Lt. Col. Hal Moore

[Lexington Green]

I fear that the movie will receive heavy criticism, ala PEARL HARBOR. I also expect 60 MINUTES to feature Ia Drang vets debunking this Hollywood tripe. Too bad. It breaks my heart.

[Snow Bunny]

I always answer pings to me and I am sorry I missed your earlier one, it was not on purpose to not post back to you.

I am sitting here and I do not know what to say,
I want this film to be true to the book so badly.

The book is the best I have ever read about the Viet Nam war.
And I have met thousands of Viet Nam Vets that would as I do want a film made that shows the bravery and truth of our wonderful fighting men (and women too that served ) that went to Viet Nam.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

I first heard BG Burkett talk about his book and the years of research that proved the lies of Hollywood and the left, with their disrespectful and unwarrented scorn and/or pity of our Vietnam Vets. They clearly have trouble understanding the concept of honor, loyalty and true freedom on the left. Reminds me of Nero and Rome. Nero jumped at the chance to blame the Christians for Rome's destruction/ burning - and it worked, for a time. Jesus had been crucified and rose from the dead in their generation and the Christians did not respect Roman authority. For three hundred years Christians were brutally tortured, fed to the lions and crucified in Rome partly because the Romans chose to believe Nero's lies and blame the Christians. Today, no textbook, movie or documentary claims that Christians burned Rome. Early texts survived and proved otherwise. "Stolen Valor" will survive, as will FR, and the truth. Bless you.

Short cut version:

THREAD ONE
Stolen Valor: Shattering the Myths of Vietnam ; Exclusive to NewsMax.com! Excerpts from: Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its History by B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley.

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Seventy-eight percent were homeowners, paying mortgages on traditional, single-family homes -- and more likely to own a home than their peers who did not go to Vietnam. Eight of every 10 surveyed were married and 90 percent had children.

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About one-third of Vietnam-era veterans entered the military through the draft, far lower than the 67 percent drafted in World War II.

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The force that fought in Vietnam was America's best educated and most egalitarian in the country's history....In World War II, only 45 percent of the troops had a high school diploma.... Proportionately three times as many college graduates served in Vietnam than in World War II.... 30 percent of the KIAs came from the lowest third of the income range; but 26 percent of the combat deaths came from families earning in the highest third.

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About 5 percent of those who died were Hispanic and 12.5 percent were black -- making both minorities slightly under-represented in relation to their proportion of draft-age males in the national population.

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Except for the last couple of years of the war, drug usage among American troops in Vietnam was lower than for American troops stationed anywhere else in the world, including the United States. Even when the drug use started to rise in 1971 and 1972, almost 90 percent of the men who had ever served in Vietnam had already come and gone. ...drug use was more common among non-veterans than Vietnam-era veterans.

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- Seventy-four percent said they "enjoyed their time in service."
- Eighty percent disagreed with the statement "the United States took unfair advantage of me."
- Fifty-six percent of Vietnam veterans said they benefited in the long run by going to Vietnam. Only 29 percent said they were set back.
- Ninety-one percent of those who served in Vietnam were "glad they served their country."

[Deadeye Division]

bttt

[Snow Bunny]

Thank you so much.

[JudyB1938]

Oops. I posted before I got to the end of Thread I. I'll repost here what I said there, because I want people to realize what a heroine you were/are ...

Snow Bunny, YatchClub thanked you for all of them (Nam Vets). May I thank you for the rest of us who could only be there with our kids in spirit and prayer. You are worth a zillion Jane Fondas and will be foremost in the hearts of those who had the priviledge of seeing you. Thanks again for YOUR service to our country. You did good.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

from Thread I
"Thank you for the thread link. I hope you know how I appreciate it."

Your Welcome my dear friend!

[Poohbah]

Bump for the brave men of the Seventh United States Cavalry Regiment.

Instead of spa we'll drink down ale,
And pay the reck'ning on the nail;
No man for debt shall go to jail
From Garryowen in glory

Garryowen, ALOHA RONNIE.

[Snow Bunny]

You do magic. LOL Thank you so much for the graphics you are posting. I love the size you have them. I have no idea how to do that.

THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH!

[Snow Bunny]

I am so glad you post this, thanks again.

[swheats]

[Snow Bunny]

BEAUTIFUL Swheats, thank you so much.

When the movie comes out lets tell our hubby's we want to all go together. I would love that. Let me know.

[swheats]

You betcha bump.

[daisyscarlett]

This is a great thread and you are doing a good job managing it. I look forward to reading the book and seeing the movie.

My cousin's son died in Viet Nam. He was a 20 year old Marine and he was ambushed while on patrol. It had a profound effect on his family and they have never gotten over it. His mother has devoted her time since his death working with Gold Star Mothers at the National level. A very sad time..Many of the Vietnam Vets I know have had sequelae.

The Dept. of Veterans Affairs is improving the benefits to the Viet Nam Vets and hopefully, the new Secretary of the VA, will do even more, as he too is a Viet Nam Vet. It was not so long ago that Viet Nam vets were denied treatment at the VA Hospitals unless they were indigent or service connected. That has changed so all Viet Nam vets that were previously denied care at the VA hospitals should recheck their status. They may be eligible now.

[Semaphore Heathcliffe]

Rescued a 12 man team from Viet Cong - over 40 wounds

Bump for Roy. He passed, in what couldn't have been but a few minutes, into that transcendent place where former mortals go to be Warriors of the Ages. I got the same sense when looking at the headstones on Oosterbeek Cemetery, where the British and Polish paratroopers killed in Market -Garden are buried. They didn't ask to be jumped into an armored division, as Benevidez did in fact write the script on his own. But they spent three days dying in a place that still reeks of their efforts. All I could think about them (and Benevidez and the countless throughout history who made the grade) was, rest easy and content, for we've no need of you today. Today we're fat, dumb, and happy. The likes of you would be wasted on it all.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...The Enemy is now Within ...The War has Come Home...

...and The Enemy Within has always been CBS News'.. ..'CBS Nightly News'.. with LIBERAL LIARS ~WALTER CRONKITE~ / ~DAY RATHER~.. and CBS News'.. ..'60 Minutes'.. along with the man who produced them all...

...one LIBERAL LIAR DRAGON ~DON HEWITT~...!

Signed:..Vet/1st Battalion U.S. 7th Air Cavalry/IA DRANG-1965 www.lzxray.com / www.WeWereSoldiersFilm.com

[Snow Bunny]

BraVO AND THANK YOU.

[Snow Bunny]

Daisyscarlett thank you for sharing that on here. You are such a dear person . God bless you and your family. I am so very sorry about your cousins son.
I agree about the benefits for the vets and there are many VA hospitals that are total nightmares too. Our Vets should be treated so much better and like the Heroes they are.

Thanks so much. It means a lot to me that you came to the thread and posted and what you shared means a lot to me.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

bump for one of the Viet Nam HEROINES!

[SKYDRIFTER]

Snow Bunny,

Your efforts on this topic are particularly dear to a cause of mine. Without getting off-topic, let it suffice to say that American Heroes and individual leaders are not permitted in our culture. There is method to the madness. Hence those such as the Kennedy's and Martin King are methodically taken out - it's no coincidence.

Mankind has a primal NEED for heroes

Celebrities are substituted to meet that need; nobody notices. It's quite methodical.

As with ordinary news, the media plays quite a role in the suppression of the traditional norm of national leaders and heroes.

Conversely, if you go into Clinton's past, to the massive cocaine running through the Mena Arkansas Airport during his term as governor, he was zero-chance for election. Yet, with the media suppression of such despicable information, Clinton was elected - twice. He was a criminal from the beginning.

Thus, the truth and heroism of the true "Great" in our society, requires us to sneak onto the Internet to either discover the combat heroes AND to honor them.

Again, thank you.