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Canada's No Model for U.S. Health Care
UPI ^ | Saturday, 8 September 2001 22:28 (ET) | KERRI HOUSTON

Posted on 09/08/2001 9:24:58 PM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON, Sept. 8 (UPI) -- Beware, for the champions of Canadian-style health care are sniffing around the halls of the Senate.

The ascension of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) to the chairmanship of the chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee, where Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) sits as his closest ally on the issue, means that the backdoor drift toward "Clintoncare" will continue. For years, Kennedy has labored to bring socialized medicine to America. Hillary, sadder but wiser since her first effort on the issue failed miserably, is seeking an opportunity for vindication.

Unfortunately they, along with others in the Congress, are looking to Canada's system of universal health care for a solution, lunacy of the highest magnitude. There is no question that the U.S. health care system needs work, but the answer to America's problems does not lie in the unmitigated disaster that exists north of our border.

Having learned valuable political lessons from the failures of previous efforts, Kennedy, Clinton and others are this time approaching it incrementally, hoping that no one will notice.

Currently, even the most liberal Canadian politicians label their national health care system a failure, screaming for complete overhaul, and even suggesting market-based solutions.

Canada calls its program a "one-tier" health care system, which sounds good, except the reality is that everybody gets virtually no health care, but on an even basis.

The problems for Canada's sick people come from several fronts including lack of access to drugs, shortages of doctors and other healthcare professionals, and the elimination of hospital bed space.

Last summer in Newfoundland, the Minister of Health announced that that some health care facilities would be closing between May and September. These hospital bed closures were reportedly to "accommodate staff vacations". Ontario has a critical shortage of radiation therapy machines and technicians. This year, not a single new graduate qualified to be a radiation technologist. The one lone radiation clinic in all of Manitoba reported last summer a waiting list 371 names long. From April 1999 to July 2000, over 1,400 patients in Ontario were sent to the U.S. for treatment at a cost to Canadian taxpayers of $15,000 - $20,000 per patient. This was the reality of free Canadian health care.

As a cost containment measure, Ontario doctors are paid under "billing thresholds," meaning they are paid by the number of patients they see regardless of time spent or comprehensiveness of the care provided. If they hit the limit, they must send "overpayments" back to the government. In the first seven months of 1999, 251 Ontario physicians went over their limits and sent checks totaling $7.2 million back to the government.

There is currently a major battle raging between the provinces and the Canadian federal government -- the primary source of funds for Canada's national health plan.

In 1995, the Canadian feds cut the provincial healthcare budgets by $45 billion. In response, Ontario limited the number of enrollees to medical schools in an effort to cut costs. Combined with a burgeoning population, retirement of older doctors and a mass exodus of medical professionals to the United States, the province is now facing a perilous doctor shortage.

The provinces are battling the federal government for the return of those health care dollars. The feds say the provinces will get the money back as soon as they reform the system. The provinces counter that they will reform the system as soon as they get the money. In the meantime, patients in some provinces are waiting one month to see the General Practitioner, and up to seven for CAT scans, MRI's and other diagnostic test that take only a few days to receive here in the United States.

Taking a new spin on negative ads -- one government entity picking on another -- Ontario has recently spent $3 million on an advertising campaign designed to shame the feds into repealing the funding cuts.

The national government in Ottawa countered with a $2 million campaign of its own beating up the provinces -- with the taxpayers picking up the tab for all this bickering, while waiting months for the attention of someone to their medical problems.

Last year Alberta Premier Ralph Klein signed into law a bill allowing private clinics to compete for public healthcare money.

Saskatchewan's former premier Roy Romanov now heads a commission examining the future of the Canadian system and already states that he is not opposed to a private-public system. Canadian politicians, few of them conservative, now acknowledge that the system that was for so long was a sacred cow that none dare disparage, is really one that gives no milk.

As healthcare moves to the forefront once again in the United States, U.S. liberals still look to Canada as the model the Washington should seek to replicate. As Canada moves towards increased privatization of health care, Senate Democrats want America to shift its health care model to where our neighbors to the north have already been -- and are desperately trying to escape. This would be bad for our national health. (Kerri Houston works with state-based think tanks on public policy issues across the United States.)

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Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:
Socialized Healthscare.
1 posted on 09/08/2001 9:24:58 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Hillary, sadder but wiser since her first effort on the issue failed miserably, is seeking an opportunity for vindication.

the perot connection (remember him, he jumped back into the race...)
had to do with hillary! care... he stood to make billions if socialized
medicine metastasized in the good ole us of a.

follow the money on this one... this zebra don’t change it’s spots.

2 posted on 09/08/2001 9:52:59 PM PDT by glock rocks (fmcdh)
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To: candyman34
What America needs is a return to the Hill-Burton system of health-care financing. It worked well for Americans in the past. Ever since the advent of managed care and the dreaded HMOs the cost of a hospital bed, doctor visit, or call on an emergency room has gone out of sight. Come on, folks, life in America simply does not have to be this difficult!
4 posted on 09/09/2001 2:31:03 AM PDT by BrucefromMtVernon
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To: Nachum
The article does not mention the fact that cancer patients
requiring immediate surgery are put on a WAITING LIST
and often must wait SEVERAL WEEKS for their operation.
5 posted on 09/09/2001 2:42:20 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Nachum
I know someone in Canada who needed immediate attention and surgery following a heart attack. He was moved from hospital to hospital for weeks before receiving treatment.

Anyone who thinks American health care is inferior to Canada's has no idea what he or she is talking about.

There are more MRI machines in the city of Philadelphia, PA, than in ALL OF CANADA!

For Ted Kennedy, the poster child of spoiled wealth and irresponsibility, to argue for Canadian health care is an outrage. Kennedy should be laughed and booed from any platform upon which he makes such an argument.

6 posted on 09/09/2001 5:30:38 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Nachum
One key reason why Canuckistan cannot be a model for U.S. health care is simple - demographics.

Lacking a largely-racially-defined large underclass - or any large underclass - Ottawa politicians need not fear a middle-class backlash centering on white Canucks revolting over being taxed to fund another expensive welfare program mainly for the benefit of a different-looking underclass.

7 posted on 09/09/2001 5:37:53 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: glc1173@aol.com
Canuckistan

LOL!

8 posted on 09/09/2001 6:17:58 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Canuckistan

LOL!

Ditto! Excellent!

9 posted on 09/09/2001 6:58:23 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: glc1173@aol.com
Canuckistan-

I love it.

10 posted on 09/09/2001 9:28:20 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
That beats Can'tada
11 posted on 09/09/2001 1:26:09 PM PDT by watcher1
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To: Nachum
It used to be that Ted Kennedy championed the British system of socialized medicine. Of course, it had numerous problems. And, when it became apparent that the average Brit had to wait around 5 years for the surgery after a total hip operation was recommended, it became most clear why the delay. Simply put, the government, in my opinion, hoped that the oldster would die before getting the total hip operation. A great savings.

As the problems of the British system became more and more apparent to Americans, Ted Kennedy embraced the Canadian system. Being much newer, all of its problems had not yet surfaced. Now we see that the Canadian Government cannot control the costs even though it is using all sorts of rationing practices (including limited resources, etc.). More and more Americans realize that the Canadian system is not really any better than the British system.

So, with the help of the dominant liberal media, the shortcomings of the Canadian system are not mentioned, but the focus is on the comparatively few shortcomings of our American system. To the liberals, the only reason for the apparent failure of good socialized health care in England and Canada is because the wrong people are running it.

The liberals feel with such knowledgeable people like Senator Kennedy and Senator Clinton, the system would work and be "fair" (a classic liberal buzz word).

Keep in mind that all three of the HillaryCare bills introduced to the congress in 1993 actually had an exemption for Federal Employees (including members of congress ... they wanted nothing to do with it, but did want to ram it down our throats).
 

12 posted on 09/10/2001 8:54:26 AM PDT by aaaDOC
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To: Nachum
As Canada moves towards increased privatization of health care, Senate Democrats want America to shift its health care model to where our neighbors to the north have already been -- and are desperately trying to escape.

Canada is running away from this.

What is the U. S. running toward it?

13 posted on 09/10/2001 12:24:08 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
What is the U. S. running toward it?

Should have been:

Why is the U. s. running toward it?

14 posted on 09/10/2001 12:25:24 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
Should have been:

Why is the U. s. running toward it?

Nah, shoulda been "Why is the U. S. running toward it?"

But I like your screen name, so I'll answer:

What's Left of America is running toward EVERYTHING socialist. Period. A lot of it is because those at the top see future Big Money in being the elite, over the Soviet Masses. Another reason is that our schools of "higher learning" (and I love it that Michael Savage calls them "schools of lower learning") are viper pits of Marxism and socialism. So kids are taught that Socialism, Marxism & Communism (all the same, really) are GOOD, while Capitalism is BAD. Whaddaya speck when they come out into the real world?

All of which is why I call it What's Left of America. And there isn't much.

15 posted on 09/10/2001 12:34:09 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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