CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame

Newsmax ^ | September 12, 2001 | Ruddy

[boltfromblue]

Let's focus on Clinton's sole responsibility for alienating the Afghanistanis, whom we supported in their freedom fight from Russia yet who took in bin Laden for the money he offered the state. However , we had been getting their agreement to deport him when our pervert President entered the scene and later acted alone against every single person in the military and defense department [ read Seymour Hersh' investigative report, The Missiles of August, published in '98 in the Atlantic Monthly] the day after his grand jury deposition, to divert attention and release his own unjustified anger by lobbing missiles into Afghanistan. I personally had first hand knowledge that we had no plans to target Afghanistan and no viable target (obviously), also independent verification of the truth of Hersh's news story. Our continually traitorous President , acting as commander-in-chief sabotaged us and our relationship with Afghanistan by bombing it.

[SuziQ]

I heard that the Sen. Frank Church's hearings excoriating the CIA was the downfall of the CIA. Does anyone have something to read on this???

My brother-in-law called last night and that was the first thing he said. He remembers the Church Committee, and the squeamishness of Americans toward any 'black operations' or 'human intelligence'. He said we ought to dig up Frank Church (we think he's dead) and hang him for allowing America to get into such a vulnerable position. And we also ought to go back and look up who in the Congress voted to allow it to happen!

Interesting, the thoughts again about Clinton and treason. I was down in MS last week and my brother who works for NASA in DC was there also (he's ok, but said that DC was gridlock early yesterday). He said Clinton should have been impeached for TREASON, not for Monica. He was livid over our losses of secure info to the Chinese mainly through Loral.

I am also getting angry at those who are criticizing Bush for not flying directly back to Washington yesterday after the Pentagon attack. HELLO!!! No one knew, with several hundred planes still flying over the country at that time, if there were any more 'suicide bombers' on the way. It is being speculated that the flight that crashed near Pittsburgh had headed west, then turned back East and may have been headed for the White House. I also learned that Bush WAS on the way to Washington after the Trade Center attacks, but was diverted when the plane hit the Pentagon. It is our President's duty to STAY ALIVE to run the country, NOT to be on the TV virtually holding our hands all day. He was busy with much more important things. I was personaly NOT offended when Karen Hughes came out to give the statement (unlike Brian Williams who I thought was going to have a conniption fit!) Bush, Cheney and Condi Rice were exactly where they needed to be, running the Situation Room and dealing with the NSA. I'm glad the Secret Service took Bush in hand and got him to a secure location. No one knew what might be coming next, and they wanted to be ready for any eventuality!

I'm praying for all who died because of these heinous acts, and for their families, but also for President Bush who has enormous decisions to make in the weeks and months ahead.

[Terry Mross]

I think the media is to blame. They've been trumpeting how Bush was the "selected" president and how America is "divided". This made the terrorist think we were weak. That's why Hitlery and Dashole and Little Dickie are out there saying "We're behind the president". They know they went too far! We should blame them like Clinton blamed Talk Radio for OKC.

[az wildkitten]

No, it was the fault of the Church committee years before. Sen. Church demonized the intelligence departments of CIA, and FBI, saying it was undemocratic to spy on people, that we get the same information with satellites and that all that cloak and dagger stuff was out of date. Blame Church.

[prognostigaator]

bump

[TheRealLobo]

Hmmm, in 1993, PRIOR to the first attack on the towers, Laden was an unknown. In the 2001 attack, Laden's whereabouts and connection to the earlier attacks HAS been known. Looks like your statement is without merit. Had clinton been in office yesterday, he most likely would have vowed to find the terrorists REGARDLESS of how much money they paid him. They most likely would be pardoned to gain the vote for the Demoncratic party, and allowed to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom.

[MeekOneGOP]

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[anniegetyourgun]

I guess I'm still trying to get over LBJ lying to Congress to expand a war in which he never intended to win. In other words, knowingly sending young Americans to die.

[Humidston]

Brutally, we witnessed our weakness today.

Thank God the adults are now in charge. I just pray it isn't too late.

[Mark17]

I guess I'm still trying to get over LBJ lying to Congress to expand a war in which he never intended to win. In other words, knowingly sending young Americans to die.

Both Johnson and Clinton are/were evil.

[almajur]

Funny - but I seem to remember (and I heard this also yesterday on one of the news shows) that the virtual dismantling of the CIA was accomplished by one, President Jimmy Carter in the late '70's...he didn't admire covert intelligence it seems and thought that America shouldn't stoop to such indelicate activity. Ronald Reagan re-instituted to some degree covert intelligence but Congress wasn't forthcoming with the bucks necessary for full-scale operation. I don't think that Clinton et al did anything extraordinarily different than J. Carter...they were both weak-kneed.

[almajur]

But the purpose of terrorists is NOT to decimate a population completely - the 'fun' would be over in that case. The purpose of terrorists is to instill fear in the civilian population. Terrorists always hit and run - they don't take out huge entities or peoples. There is one positive in all this: people (at least in my area) went out and bought guns and ammunition big-time.

[Chairman Fred]

One thing I didn't find: mention of the INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service). Who perverted the process to grant "citizenship" to convicted felons? Who lowered the bar so terrorists could freely enter this country? Who did these things so there would be a surge of Democrat votes in 1996 and 2000??

THANK YOU, BILL CLINTON, DORIS MEISSNER AND AL GORE!!

I hope you and the rest of your party are proud of yourselves. The blood is on your hands.

[DallasSun]

This thread is dreadful. No one but the terrorists are to blame. How pitiful to see partisan politics to come into play at a time like this.

[DallasSun]

And if ONE more person says something about adults or grown ups ......as if we are addle brained children to be led by politicians!

[Chairman Fred]

What was Future Coprolite Tim Russert's comment last night, about America needing "leadership, and Bill Clinton nowhere in sight" or something like that?

[DallasSun]

It was inappropriate and badly timed. Partisan politics should end at water's edge as we have always heard. Unfortunately, this time it is at our water's edge. I was very sorry, and angry, to hear him say this. We should all stand behind our President at this time. Just my opinion.

[boltfromblue]

I have known senior Pentagon officials (head of one department) and know that the State Department under Albright basically influenced/coerced them to use the port in Yemen where the Cole was attacked despite their trepidation. BTW, agree Clancy is right on. And let's send CNN our messages. I am SO GRATEFUL that a CLOSE contact was not at the Pentagon yesterday, as the office area on the outside was damaged.

[DeweyCA]

Gee, if Clinton is to blame for yesterday's bombing fully eight months after Boy George took over, then I suppose the first bombing of the World Trade Center, in February 1993, less than a month after Poppy Bush left office was the fault of George the First.

If George Bush Sr. had purposely decimated the counter-intelligence community, then yes, I would hold him partially responsible for the first WTC bombing. But he did NOT do that. Clinton purposely decreased our human intelligence capabilities, and we are now paying the price, and he should share responsiblity for it.