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A Time to Grieve; A Time for Resolve
self | September 16, 2001 | logos

Posted on 09/16/2001 11:26:37 AM PDT by logos

A Time to Grieve

We do not know their names, except for just a few. We do not even know their number, except that they are in the thousands. We do know some things about them.

We know that they were bankers and stockbrokers, corporation executives and insurance agents, actuaries and accountants ... but they were also janitors and maintenance workers, retail clerks and store managers, security personnel and receptionists, firemen and policemen, as well as other occupations.

We know that they were white and black, brown and red and yellow. We know that they were men and women and children, some were babies.

We know that they were Catholics and Protestants, Jews and Muslims, Buddhists and pagans, atheists and agnostics, and some were most likely of other faiths, as well.

We know that they were pilots and stewardesses and passengers, some of them were jaded New Yorkers, others were rubber-necking tourists, and there were some who probably can't be classified.

We know that they were Democrat and Republican, Independent and Reform Party members, libertarians, socialists, conservatives and liberals, and some were completely apolitical. Some voted in the last election, and some never voted in any election.

Some were civilians, some were military, and some were civilians who worked for the government.

Most importantly, we know that they were our brothers and sisters. They were Americans.

Last Tuesday, September 11, 2001, they all died ... in flames and smoke, under tons of falling rubble, and falling out of the sky. They died in the twin towers of the World Trade Center, at the Pentagon, and in the Pennsylvania countryside. Some even died as heroes.

And they were all our brothers and sisters. They were all Americans. They were all murdered.

Because they were our brothers and sisters, because they were Americans, because they died for no good reason, we mourn their passing. We grieve for their families and friends. We grieve for all they left behind. We grieve for our nation. We grieve for ourselves.

We did not know them, they were strangers to us all, but they were members of our national family. They were participants in the American dream, and we mourn their loss.

In losing these brothers and sisters we have lost a part of ourselves. When they were murdered ... so suddenly, so finally, so senselessly ... a part of each of us was killed with them. They are gone from this earth, and we will never be the same again.

Please join me in a moment of silent prayer, as we ask God to bring some good out of such monumental evil.

* * * * * *

May God have mercy on the souls of our lost brothers and sisters.
May God comfort those who loved them, and those who grieve for them.
Amen.

A Time for Resolve

It is impossible to understand the depth of the hatred we saw exhibited this last Tuesday, even as it played itself out in New York, in Washington, D.C., and in the Pennsylvania countryside. Even so, if we are to survive this gross insult to our American family, we must try to understand it, if only a little.

Somewhere in the backs of our minds we've known that America had its enemies. I don't think we understood the kind of enemy we have, and I'm sure we don't know why they hate us as much as they obviously do.

Nineteen young men, none of them out of their thirties, most of them in their twenties, willingly chose to die, just so they could kill as many of us as possible at the same time.

Nor was this a spur-of-the-moment act, done under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or in the throes of insanity. The mayhem and destruction that played itself out last Tuesday was planned for months, if not years. Slowly and methodically these men, and those who helped them, gathered all the materials they needed, and took the training which would allow them to operate the weapons of their choice, all the while living among us as friends.

On the appointed day they abandoned their temporary homes in our neighborhoods, and traveled to the different airports they had chosen, from which they carried out their deadly plans.

As hard as it is to believe now, they were not totally successful. At least one team of young men was unable to take over the plane they had chosen, and left the airport without getting on the plane they had chosen. Another group missed their target of first choice. The plane which crashed in the Pennsylvania countryside fell short of its intended target, thanks to the heroic efforts of a few passengers who knew they were about to die, but decided to die without making even more Americans victims.

But they were successful enough. Thousands of our brother and sister Americans are dead, and our enemies called it an act of war.

Those who hate us with such deadly purpose have declared war on America, and we must wake from our slumber and respond. We have no choice, because they have given us no choice. They have said they will continue to attack us, perhaps the next time with even more deadly weapons, killing even more of our fellow citizens, and they will continue their war against us whether we make war on them, or not.

So be it.

As I'm sure many of you have done I have spent much time in the past few days watching my television as these events have unfolded. Beginning on Tuesday, and continuing right through to today, I have heard many voices calling for, no, demanding vengeance. Many of our fellow citizens want blood for blood. We must not forget, however, that "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord."

Somehow, in some way, we must find a way to forgive these people who hate us so deeply. I know how unpopular such an idea is in our nation today, yet, the word of our God is clear. Vengeance is not ours to take. Vengeance is God's business, not ours.

Yet, what are we to do? If we overlook this heinous act, it will just be repeated, again and again. More of our people will be killed, more of our property destroyed, more reasons will be given us to mourn and grieve. Still, we must forgive our enemies.

But we are not called to tolerate their murderous acts.

Does the farmer hate the rats which make nests in his corn crib? No. They're just being the rats that they were born to be. That's what rats do. Still, the farmer doesn't allow them to continue living in his corn crib. He does whatever he has to do, as long as he has to do it, until every last rat is gone from his corn crib. And the farmer knows that, rats being rats, he cannot stop until every last rat is dead or gone. Leaving even one is the same as leaving them all.

Of course, it was not rats which took the lives of our brothers and sisters last Tuesday. It was evil. Evil is the absence of all good. Evil is evil. This evil has made its nest in our cribs, and we must be resolved to destroy this evil before it destroys us.

Our President is a man of good will, a loving man, a man who would rather smile than frown or sneer, even when confronting his enemies. Over the past few days, as I have watched him on my television, I have seen a man who has been deeply saddened by these events, a man who is grieving even as we grieve, but I have also seen a man with great resolve.

I have not seen a man who hates. I have seen a man who knows the job he has been called to do. I have seen a man who is resolved to do the job he has been given, no matter the cost, no matter the time it takes, no matter the difficulty and sacrifice.

It is his job to lead us in this war we did not ask for, and it is our job to follow him where he leads.
He has told us it will not be easy. No matter; we are as resolved as he.
He has told us it will take a long time. No matter; we are resolved.
He has told us it will have a great cost. No matter; we are resolved.
He has told us we will be called to sacrifice. We are resolved to sacrifice.
He has told us that we must not stop waging war until the last vestige of this evil among us has been eliminated. No matter; we are resolved.

Over the years here in America we have grown soft.
We will become stronger.

Lately, we have been lazy.
We will become industrious.

In our recent past we have become complacent.
Now, we care, and deeply.

Recently, we have come to call good evil, and evil good.
Now we see evil for what it is, and we will remove this evil from us, and from the world which spawned it.

We are resolved.

Amen.


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Some of you who began reading this will have come to the word "forgive," choked, stumbled, and stopped reading. Respectfully, I would ask that you go back to that word and read from there to the end. If that was your reaction I would submit that you have fallen prey to the post-modern sophistry that forgiveness and tolerance are one and the same. They are not.

We do not forgive these murderers for their benefit. It would appear that they all were guilty of the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit; our forgiveness will not do them the least bit of good. We forgive them for our benefit.

We forgive them so we can get past the hatred that their despicable acts have generated within us. We do not have the time or luxury to hate. Hatred, held long enough, will make us just as blind as it made those who struck at us. Blind hatred will make us lash out without regard to our targets or our proper objectives.

Righteous anger, on the other hand, will build in us an implacable resolve to rid the world of the evil which has made us each a target of its hate. Cold, unyielding resolve is what we will need to see this job through to the bitter end. And regardless of what you think today, the end will be bitter, very bitter indeed. We have been changed already by the events of the past week; doing what needs to be done will change us even more. That is our unwelcome fate, but if we either shirk our duty, or miss our objectives because we have been blinded by hatred, the fate of our children and grandchildren will be worse.

Be angry. Become resolved. Leave the hating to those who already suffocate from it.

Thank you for your time.

logos

1 posted on 09/16/2001 11:26:37 AM PDT by logos
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To: RevNan
Just for you. :-)
2 posted on 09/16/2001 11:27:10 AM PDT by logos
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To: Diamond; Buggman; patent; Bonaparte
As I'm sure many of you have been, I've been - what's the modern phrase? - "conflicted" this past week. What you see here is the result, at least so far.
3 posted on 09/16/2001 11:52:57 AM PDT by logos
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To: logos
Beautiful. Thank you.
4 posted on 09/16/2001 11:55:47 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Jim Robinson, JohnHuang2, Hugh Akston, LurkerNoMore!
You must see this.
5 posted on 09/16/2001 11:56:28 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Keeper of the Flame
I miss you. Things have been hectic here. I hope to catch up with you later this week.
6 posted on 09/16/2001 11:57:32 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: seattlesue
Hoping you are well.
7 posted on 09/16/2001 11:58:18 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: logos
Forgiveness will have to wait upon justice.
8 posted on 09/16/2001 12:13:41 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Dr.Scarpetta; Artist
A good day to you both.
9 posted on 09/16/2001 12:14:07 PM PDT by logos
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To: logos
bttt
10 posted on 09/16/2001 12:21:17 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
Thank you. :-)

[I just hope too many don't stop at the word "forgive" - they're the ones who need to read it...]

11 posted on 09/16/2001 12:22:46 PM PDT by logos
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To: logos
I almost did even though I know what you said is true, but it was in such contrast with what you had already said that I knew I had to continue. :) I hope this stays bttt all day. It's absolutely beautiful.
12 posted on 09/16/2001 12:25:04 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: headsonpikes
Forgiveness will have to wait upon justice.

I agree because there is also a Time for War. This is not the Time to Turn the Other Cheek. And a time to remember they didn't accomplish every evil deed they intended for us Tuesday. They meant to kill Bush and our Congress.

13 posted on 09/16/2001 12:31:30 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
I'm too old to blush, so stop it! :-)

[I preached this today, and it was extremely hard to get through it all. Writing it was one thing; saying it all out loud was quite another.]

14 posted on 09/16/2001 12:31:54 PM PDT by logos
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To: logos
I find President Bush's choice of words a moment ago interesting. He said that we will hunt down "those that comfort the ones who did this". The term comfort is an odd choice I think.
15 posted on 09/16/2001 12:35:20 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: logos
Excellent sermon, logos. Thank you so much for flagging me on it. I'm very grateful.
16 posted on 09/16/2001 12:36:09 PM PDT by Artist
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To: Artist
bttt! Hi Artist! :)
17 posted on 09/16/2001 12:58:16 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
BTTT. Hi back atcha, Ms. AntiFeminazi! :^)
18 posted on 09/16/2001 1:09:21 PM PDT by Artist
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To: logos
"We forgive them for our benefit"

A hearty amen!

God bless you brother.God bless George Bush and God bless America.

and a big fat BUMP

19 posted on 09/16/2001 1:09:46 PM PDT by mitch5501 (Jesus is Lord)
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To: logos
Recently, we have come to call good evil, and evil good. ow we see evil for what it is, and we will remove this evil from us, and from the world which spawned it.

We are resolved.

Amen.

Thanks. Wonderful sermon.

20 posted on 09/16/2001 1:13:20 PM PDT by Fzob
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To: logos
Does the farmer hate the rats which make nests in his corn crib? No. They're just being the rats that they were born to be. That's what rats do. Still, the farmer doesn't allow them to continue living in his corn crib. He does whatever he has to do, as long as he has to do it, until every last rat is gone from his corn crib. And the farmer knows that, rats being rats, he cannot stop until every last rat is dead or gone. Leaving even one is the same as leaving them all.

A perfect analogy. Thank you for putting into words what I've been struggling with all week.

Yours in Christ,

21 posted on 09/16/2001 1:57:56 PM PDT by Buggman
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To: Buggman
Yes, it has been a struggle, hasn't it?

Peace.

22 posted on 09/16/2001 2:13:21 PM PDT by logos
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; RJayneJ
I trust you are all having a good Lord's Day.
23 posted on 09/16/2001 2:14:23 PM PDT by logos
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To: logos
bttt
24 posted on 09/16/2001 2:45:00 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: SLB; pocat; Fred Mertz; the irate magistrate
Some grist for your mills...
25 posted on 09/16/2001 3:10:27 PM PDT by logos
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To: Grrrrr 75 Grendlegrey,Memother,Pocat,AntiVenom ,USConservative,Antifemanazi , JD792 ,Bigun
BTTT
26 posted on 09/16/2001 3:35:40 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: logos
A wonderful message, Brother.
27 posted on 09/16/2001 3:45:34 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
another bttt! Hi AP :)
28 posted on 09/16/2001 5:21:17 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
You didn't flag ME!

Here's a bump anyway.

29 posted on 09/16/2001 5:22:17 PM PDT by carenot
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To: logos
Every generation of Americans has, at some point, been called upon to stand in the gap. Our hour has come. May all of us draw upon the resolve and strength shown by those passengers of the flight over Pennsylvania, even as they faced certain death, to take that stand for freedom and liberty. To do less would soil their sacrifice.

Let us not forget; we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with barbarians who pervert the sacred teachings of that great religion for their own putrid goals. Their only resemblance to civilized humanity is the fact that they walk upright.

Let us be firm in our resolve to do what must be done. No trials, no courts, no Miranda readings. No, they must be hunted down and disposed of like the rabid vermin they are.

To do less would be to stand aside and let barbarism triumph over freedom. To those to harbor and welcome this tyranny, I say to you; OVER MY DEAD BODY.

To those who, even now, are moving to stand in the gap; welcome aboard...let's send 'em to hell!

30 posted on 09/16/2001 5:30:46 PM PDT by seadevil
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To: logos
Thanks for the flag and the sermon, logos.

Your words remind me of the Scripture, "Be angry and sin not."

I am angry, logos. Very angry. We have been attacked by a diabolical, malevolent, ruthless enemy. Images and shrieks of pain and grief sear my mind every day. They echo in my soul as I go to sleep and they wake me up in the morning.

I don't know if in my anger I am sinning or not, but I don't even want to hear any expressions of desire for 'peace' and 'justice' right now. As far as forgiving our enemies, may God have mercy on their souls, but if they are not exterminated from the face of the earth with a massive, inexorable ferocity; a righteous vengance that overwhelms them like an avalanche, they will be back with devastation a thousand-fold.

Cordially,

31 posted on 09/16/2001 5:39:52 PM PDT by Diamond
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To: logos
Does God forgive us even if we don't ask? If so, there's no reason to even strive to change our sinful ways, because we are forgiven regardless.

I'm not sure I would forgive the people behind this terrible act even if they asked, but that's probably because I'm not even close to being perfect.

But there's no chance at all that I would forgive them unless they asked. God wouldn't.

32 posted on 09/16/2001 5:49:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: logos
Prayer to St. Michael

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in the day of Battle; Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke Him, we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, cast into Hell, Satan and all the other evil spirits, who prowl through the world, seeking the ruin of souls. Amen

This powerful prayer of exorcism was composed by Pope Leo XIII; in a vision, he had been shown the fearful battle to be waged between Satan and St. Michael, over the Church of the future.

33 posted on 09/16/2001 5:57:51 PM PDT by chuknospam
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To: logos
Thank you greatly my friend. It's dead on target.
34 posted on 09/16/2001 6:25:29 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: logos
Thanks for the heads up! };^D)
35 posted on 09/16/2001 6:39:21 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: seadevil
Yes, I agree. It is our time to stand in the gap. I pray that we do so with a clear head and implacable resolve.
36 posted on 09/16/2001 6:40:56 PM PDT by logos
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To: Diamond
I am with you in your anger. I trust in God that it is a righteous anger.

I think I can do my part, whatever that may prove to be, to assist in the complete and utter eradication of these "rats" from the face of the earth; and I think I can do it without sliding into hatred.

However, if I can't do that, you remember the words of Martin Luther, who said "If all your options are sinful, sin boldly."

We can do no more than live the lives allotted to us, to the best of our ability strengthened by the power of the Holy Spirit. Fortunately, that's all we're asked to do.

37 posted on 09/16/2001 6:45:47 PM PDT by logos
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To: Dog Gone
Ah, my friend, our forgiveness of these two-legged vermin does nothing for their relationship with God. Whether we forgive them, or damn them to hell, has no effect on their final meeting with God.

I forgive them for the benefit it gives me, after which I can do my part in eradicating them from the face of the earth with a clear conscience, knowing that it is my duty, rather than a product of hatred.

38 posted on 09/16/2001 6:49:35 PM PDT by logos
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To: chuknospam
We must keep saying to ourselves ... "powers and principalities, powers and principalities" ... remembering that the true enemy will show us many faces before it's all over. Thank you for the prayer.
39 posted on 09/16/2001 6:52:01 PM PDT by logos
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To: logos
Even more than I want to read this through again, I want to thank you for posting it.

I'll be back. Best regards.

(P.S. Now is the time for all good men to understand the restraint inherent in the Christian -- New Testament -- ideology. We rush to retribution at our own peril. That is precisely what they want.)

40 posted on 09/16/2001 6:52:48 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: logos
Thanks. Thanks to President Bush for calling for a national day of prayer. I wonder if the person who claimed that office for the previous eight year would have done so. Oh yes, and by the way, I also wonder of our students were allowed to have a day of prayer in the schools? We can't offend the ACLU you know!
41 posted on 09/16/2001 6:57:28 PM PDT by Macklew
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To: logos
That makes sense. It's a little bit of an internal mind game, because it's a way of killing them with a clear conscience, but it's larger than that. It's an understanding that duty DOES require these measures. It removes the hatred without diminishing the resolve.

Thanks for making me think. You shoulda been a pastor... ;-)

42 posted on 09/16/2001 6:59:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
You shoulda been a pastor... ;-)

LOL! Thanks! I needed that.

43 posted on 09/16/2001 7:08:05 PM PDT by logos
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To: Askel5
(...We rush to retribution at our own peril. That is precisely what they want.)

Forgive me, but that reminds me of a somewhat risque story that illustrates your thought.

It seems that there were two bulls standing on a hillside, looking down into a valley full of young heifers. The young bull said "Let's run down there and have our way with one o' them heifers!"

The old bull shook his shaggy head, and said, "Nah. Let's walk down there and have our way with all of 'em."

I would far rather fight a man blinded by hatred any time, over the man who has coldly decided the world would be a better place if I were removed from it. The rash man can usually be evaded; the man who takes his time, but keeps coming, no matter what, is a different story alltogether.

44 posted on 09/16/2001 7:14:09 PM PDT by logos
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To: Macklew
We can't offend the ACLU you know!

If I ever cared what the ACLU thought about any topic, I care even less now. And no, I doubt very much if our former president would have called for a national day of prayer; not unless he could get all three major networks to capture it on video tape.

45 posted on 09/16/2001 7:17:28 PM PDT by logos
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To: logos
Amen.
46 posted on 09/16/2001 7:23:47 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: logos
Excellent thoughts..........
The Wesleyan pastor said today in church, "We are in the end times."
47 posted on 09/16/2001 7:41:06 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: logos

".. as we ask God to bring some good.."

Thank you, logos - for pointing us in the right direction - toward God - and pest control.

"In God We Trust," - so it says on our coinage. But, do we as a great nation really trust Him - and His great laws and tenets? We are told to forgive - and told to pray, "Forgive us, AS WE FORGIVE others." The implication - If we do not forgive, we will not be forgiven.

It is that simple tenet that separates the merciful from the vengeance-filled, the loving from the hate-filled - the civilized from the barbarian. Protecting the fruit of our labor from the marauding rat surely requires no hatred of the rat - merely sustained and dispassionate action - making sure none remain. But, the trouble is once they are gone - sooner or later they can and do come back - if proper precautions are not taken.

Rat control is something no diligent farmer can ignore - nor is it possible for the civilized world to abandon the sole source of all that is good and all that has ensured peace, freedom and prosperity. But we have done that as a nation, and we are faced with new hordes of vermin, barbarians and thieves.

Unfortunately and obviously we have abandoned the only rat control mankind has known - and handed that responsibility over to those who would control not the rat, but the farmer - telling him, "we are here to help you - just hand over all that you labor to produce - and your freedom, we will provide security."

It is time for us to do many things, because we have more than one problem. We have the rats, the clucking, deceitful, failed rat-controllers - and the abandonment of Him in whom we supposedly trust. We have three major problems, and none can be ignored.

Our President is a man that I believe is sincere in his own trust of and reliance on God. This won't solve any of the three problems, but civilized Americans should support his efforts as he demonstrates restraint and focuses careful attention on the rats. No farmer kills his hogs, hobbles his horses, or starves his cattle to eradicate rats - he doesn't destroy his farm to eliminate a few pests - nor does he look to his chickens to do the job for him.

But, the barbarous socialists who hate God would do just that. The pacifists, and creation worshipers would do just that. The radical, unthinking and hate-filled among us would do just that. But, logos - our current President, and you - are on the right track, aimed at all three problems.

In the past few days I have seen a man lead this nation, first to acknowledge the rat problem, and then lead in a time of mourning and prayer to Him in whom we trust. Then I saw leadership in the effort to direct our eyes toward the rats - and not on the innocent, or the deluded and those who lack true wisdom. These are great steps, but we can not take our eyes off the greater problems - the barbarians and the imposters, the chickens among us who allowed the rats to infest our land, while promising protection.

We know who they are, and we should know what is required of us. Forgiveness, first of ourselves - for allowing ourselves to be so ignorant - and of the barbarians and imposters, for being bereft of the wisdom of the ages. Now comes the ultimate task - the firing of incompetent liars, the repudiation of the nanny-state socialists, the routing of sanctimonious tyrants - telling the thieves and chickens in government they will no longer be needed or abided.

We have no choice, nor can we take our eyes off any of the problems. The ‘war' we face will indeed be a long one, as we have allowed ourselves to be surrounded by the barbarous, the tyrants, the thieves and the murderous. Our only hope of survival is supplication and faith, unity and deliberate remedial action. Are we up to it? I believe this nation is, but only if each of us does our part - and none of us joins, aides or abets the barbarians, the rats, or the chickens.

48 posted on 09/16/2001 8:12:21 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
Hmm ... you wanna preach next week? :-)

Yep, we're on the same page, all right. Thanks for the affirmation, Ron.

49 posted on 09/16/2001 8:17:03 PM PDT by logos
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To: logos
i have been religious since i was i was a kid, but do not now go to church. i can't ever remember hearing the national anthem being sung, or seeing anyone display the flag in a church as i've seen lately. how about you?
50 posted on 09/16/2001 8:29:10 PM PDT by alfie
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