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It is a terrible thing that has happened in New York and in Washington and the number of people dead. I feel truly sorry for the survivors and the family of the dead. What I dont agree with is the fact that you and the other misinformed condemn our nation and our Primeminister because we are not committing frontline troops. You dont seem to be well enough informed on New Zealand or international politics to comment! Besides no-one can say that George Bush was exactly the choice of the US people. It is the ignorance and blinkered view of many in the United States and the rest of the world,that has caused the WTC disaster and the problems in the middle east. Too many "conservative" Americans are gun-toting cowboys with no kind of knowledge of what they or the USA are doing in this world. Label me a commie or a lefty- i dont give a rats a*s. The US are too ready to jump in to any conflict and/or cause conflict,while playing the happy peacemaker.Take the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, no doubt there are many of you out there saying that the Muslims hate the Israeli's because thay represent freedom and all that is good and right (for good read American) in this world. Well I dont think that backing the Israelis now can appease the gulit of ignoring what happened to the Jewish people in WWII- (the one time that you as a nation didnt jump in) No-one wanted to take the disinfranchised Jews of Europe after the war but the US will help them persecute the Palestinians now. And while you're at it why not attack Afganistan? After all Osama bin Laden (most probably) is there- thats if the CIA and special forces can locate him -now the question is where is the proof? And yet another -can the US actually hit him if they do go in? After all the airforce dropped bombs on their own observers (incl. a New Zealander), the CIA admit missing the target a few months ago when firing on bin Laden's courtage of cars.OOPS!

You had me going up until you got to the part about the "gun toting cowboys.

I now realize that the radicals on this thread were right. It appears the Kiwi's are a bunch of leftist appeasers. At least a goodly portion are. We should not expect any real support from NZ because when it comes right down to it, they are not our friends.

Besides no-one can say that George Bush was exactly the choice of the US people. It is the ignorance and blinkered view of many in the United States and the rest of the world,that has caused the WTC disaster and the problems in the middle east. Too many "conservative" Americans are gun-toting cowboys with no kind of knowledge of what they or the USA are doing in this world. Label me a commie or a lefty- i dont give a rats a*s.

Well then, take your sh*tty little country and go to h*ll. While you are at it, quit exporting those lousy apples to the United States.

Frankly speaking, the game plan really doesn't hinge upon which way New Zealand goes. For goodness sake, you economy is probably no bigger than Oklahoma's (no offense to Oklahoma).

Finally, the WTC bombing wasn't caused by anyone in the United States, it was caused by a bunch of nasty men in the Middle East. Your rhetoric sounds like classic "blame the victim" talk (she was raped because she was asking for it).