Posted on 09/19/2001 9:20:40 PM PDT by kattracks
The FBI (news - web sites) has obtained e-mails exhanged between the hijackers and their associates.
There is new evidence suggesting the terrorists who carried out last week's attacks in New York and Washington used the World Wide Web to help coordinate their deadly efforts.
"They used the Internet and they used it well," an FBI official said of the 19 men who hijacked four passenger airliners last Tuesday, steering three of them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (news - web sites).
The official, who is heading up the cyber-portion of the investigation, told reporters the bureau had obtained hundreds of unencrypted e-mail messages exchanged by the hijackers and their associates, dating as far back as 30 to 45 days prior to the Sept. 11 attacks.
The online communications contain relevant evidence as well as seemingly casual chitchat and are written in both English and Arabic, according to the official.
The official said the terrorists used computers in public libraries as well as personal computers to gain access to the Internet, adding that Internet service providers, along with banks and airlines, were cooperating fully with the investigation and had quickly turned over information and records requested by the FBI.
The official also said the FBI had seized a number of computers from individuals suspected of involvement in the attacks and was still examining them.
Beverley Lumpkin contributed to this report from the Justice Department.
For freedom,
Locke
From the following post: UNHOLY WAR AND SYMBOLIC TERRORISM (PA Black September responsible?)
The sentences in bold below may give us the clue as to the significance of September 11. Note that there is also a 22 in the date.
But the worse their publicity, the better Black September likes it, and in September 1972, they got the attention of the whole world when they murdered eleven Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics. Now in order to comprehend what sort of unmitigated barbarism we faced in the Attack on America, and we shall face in the future, the "symbolic terrorism" first has to be comprehended. On September 11, 1922, a British Mandate was declared in Palestine, over the objections of most Arabs. Part of this territory became the State of Israel. Fifty years later to the month, Black September killed the eleven Israeli athletes. On September 11, 2001, the Attack on America occurred. One needs to visualize the international members of Black September lapping up the blood of our thousands of victims to realize the relish they take in such terrorism, and also the enormity of the evil which we confront
24 Posted on 09/19/2001 22:14:35 PDT by Ann Khan
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Not that I know .. but I did look on the calander and it's the first day of Autumn .. also know as the Fall Season ..
It's gonna be a long weekend ..
Black September?
We are dealing with many, nations, that each have their own group. Each group has many cells, consisting of multiple terrorists.
Now, take all the 'groups' from each nation and you have the main group. Nation of Islam. Hang on to your hat.
They need to have reasons to crack down on it once they get back to harrassing citizens.
Now before I get mobbed by a bunch of patriots, let me say that what the FBI is doing right now is ok by me. If they had been chasing down illegals and investigating large, multi-state organizations that commit crimes against citizens instead of poking their noses into every local crime that was properly the purview of state and local authorities I wouldn't be so worried.
But hey, maybe I'm just pessimistic. Maybe once all of the terrorists in the US are captured the FBI will continue to work on multi-state, organized crime and leave the policing to the the police that are hired and fired by our communities.
And I could win the lottery.
Knitebane
Dunno, but 11 + 11 = 22. Maybe the number 11 has some meaning to the Muslims.
YES! Entirely.
Boy, that's not only racism, that's ignorant racism. But I guess that's repetitiously redundant ...
FACT: All nineteen murderous, hi-jackers were Muslims!
But don't let facts trouble you, the nineteen miscreant Muslims are now with their Allah enjoying their seventy-two promised virgins. GTH.
Hard to say. See what you think.
Hmmm. I suppose it might be a little harder to kill people that you befriend.
Would you like the cartoon from one of those sites? A cartoon with the minister at the pulpit saying a religion of harmony, no drugs... no whites...no Jews....
Somehow in light of terrorists that want to eradicate all non muslims, this cartoon isn't so funny!
But if you're trying infer I'm racist. Forget it. You're barking up the wrong tree. I do work with some mentally impaired people on Saturday's. Taking them places, dinner, shopping, train rides. One is Greek, another Black. Early on, (J) The black gentleman, took $100 from my purse. One of my friends was with us that day. And I whispered what had occured when I noticed the money gone, when I was paying for the food.
We decided to see if he would give it back on his own. I had planned to take everyone to the zoo the following weekend for (J's) birthday. So, I mentioned at the table, that I had lost some money, and wasn't sure if I'd be able to take everyone to the zoo next week.
Oh he looked a little nervous, but nothing. After we finished eating we went out and made a show of searching the car, and all that. We had another stop to make so we went there. We were standing around outside, and talking about the money. Finally (J) came up to me crying. He gave me the money back. I hugged him and told him it was ok. That he did the right thing in giving it back, and that it didn't change anything. That I was still his friend, and that he was still welcome to go with us on Saturdays.
I like people. I don't care what color, what religion, what age. I LIKE PEOPLE. I start conversations with strangers all the time. And I particularly like talking to people from different cultures.
So take your insinuation and stuff it!
A pre-schooler could use the 'Net for email.
If they really knew what they were doing, they would have used some sort of encryption.
Could round up some of those moderate clerics and invite one to each of the games, I am sure they wouldn’t mind, after they said they are willing to help the war effort.
What tech savvy? they used unencrypted e-mails and chat rooms. just like any person with a computer on his desk can do. There is so much conflating of these people's ability. its alsmost like people are in denial as to how simple and easy some of the logistical aspects of this operation were.
The point is that we do have groups that need watching in THIS country, too. The point being that we can't just go after the snakes across the street, and leave the one's in our garage, or we are going to get nowhere.
Having said that we cannot blame ALL muslims for the actions of the fundamentals (racist) terrorists.
Not ALL Muslims are terrorists (a plea)
Many Middle Easterners in the USA are Christians who have left or fled the Middle East because in Islamic societies they were either directly persecuted or at best second class citizens. They have come to the West because they were longing for freedom and are absolutely loyal citizens, ready to defend their country as much as any other American. It would be a horrendous injustice to attack them verbally or physically just because they look Middle Eastern.
There are more than six million Muslims living in the USA today. They are largely normal people with hopes and fears, who just want to make a living, who work hard and honest to bring bread on the table and to allow their children to go to college. They also want to live in peace and would never think of committing terrorist acts. Most of them are themselves in utter shock as result of these atrocities. They have done nothing to deserve the hatred of other Americans. They are not guilty, and it is the duty of any upright, freedom loving person to stand up for them, even to give them shelter in their own homes, should others threaten to make them victims of self-appointed revenge.
The greatness of a society built on Christian values shows itself when it will not discriminate for any reason on the basis of race, culture or religion, even when attacked by some people from one specific group. America wants to be a champion of human rights around the world, and needs to make sure, she holds herself accountable to the same standards.
For Christians particularly, we have the command of our Lord to love our neighbor as ourselves; any neighbor, not only those who are like us. But we are called to particularly care for those who are disadvantaged or discriminated against and to stand up for those who can't defend themselves. And at this time this might well include Muslims in our neighborhood who are faced with and might suffer from unreflected anger of other Americans.
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While we have to keep a keen eye to groups that are a threat, we must NOT lose sight of the fact, that not all Muslims behave or think as the fundamental terrorist. Many came to the US to get away from these same terrorists. We have make sure these Muslims know that we don't intend to terrorize them, but that they and we have a common enemy. We have to unite to defeat that foe.
Again, sorry I was a bit hard your previous post.
bumping. where is this guy now?
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