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NBC/ABC Warfare Survival Skills Links
various links | 09-21-01 | backhoe

Posted on 09/21/2001 4:36:58 PM PDT by backhoe

Here is a collection of links to information you need about Nuclear, Biological & Chemical Warfare- ABC to us oldtimers.

While not as extensive I as had hoped, it will get you started. Chances of survival are increased by knowledge and understanding of the capabilities and limitations of each class of weapons.

It is my hope that those of you who have further knowledge, or links, regarding this will add to it-- and pass it along the 'net.


Couple of Good Nuclear War Survival Primers...

Couple of Good Nuclear War Survival Primers...

You Will Survive Doomsday (Eye-Opening Myth Buster!)

11 Steps to Nuclear War Survival (From Canadian version of FEMA)

Nuclear War Survival Skills (280 pg 'how-to' book on-line!)

Trans-Pacific Fallout (Don't be caught off-guard by these ill winds!)

Nuclear War Unthinkable? (Russian & Chinese Preps!)

...and...

Bruce Beach's Nuclear Survival Ark II Site

This last was recently updated and also includes FEMA Nuclear Weapon Target Maps by state along with survival info and groups specific for each! Enjoy!

Shane Connor, author of...
Potassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ


And:

-Index of Nuke articles--



Chemical and Biological Weapons Resources


The Poor-Boy Nuke-- Bioterrorism***

Tiny Nukes-- the backpack threat




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1 posted on 09/21/2001 4:36:58 PM PDT by backhoe (Has that clinton "legacy" made you feel *safer* yet? ? ?)
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To: backhoe
Has that clinton "legacy" made you feel *safer* yet?

Exactly. Thanks for the links.

2 posted on 09/21/2001 4:42:33 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: ratcat,boonie rat,harpseal,Squantos,ALOHA RONNIE,AuntB,YaYa123,Ditter,river rat,Travis McGee,45Auto,
FYI- kindly bump, flag, and pass along to others.... it's a start on a grim but necessary subject.
3 posted on 09/21/2001 4:42:35 PM PDT by backhoe (***feel Safer Yet? ? ?)
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To: Lady GOP
Thank you kindly for looking & responding- and noting that subtle dig I've been taking at the architects of some of this horror we are facing.

The late writer Pat Frank ( Alas, Babylon! & How to Survive the H-Bomb- and Why...) had a theory that if enough Americans prepared for nuclear war, the "winnability" of it would be questioned by the Kremlin, and they'd think twice about striking us. Maybe the same idea would hold true here? It can't hurt to arm yourself with knowledge.

4 posted on 09/21/2001 4:49:52 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Man, quite a collection here bro......

Thanks & Stay Safe !

5 posted on 09/21/2001 4:50:12 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: backhoe
Am going to try to keep a supply of potassium iodide on hand. Just sent your link to a few friends.
6 posted on 09/21/2001 4:55:30 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Squantos
Thank you... and Stay Safe!

I have the gut-wrenching feeling that the bill for all of "bill's" shenanigans is about to come due ( indeed, in part it already has with the WTC attacks ) and whether we are willing- and able- to pay the price is the $64,000 Question....

7 posted on 09/21/2001 4:57:14 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Lady GOP
Just sent your link to a few friends

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm aiming for!

If I were going to recommend one book on Nuclear, I guess it would be "Nuclear War Survival Skills" by Cresson Kearny, ISBN # 0-939002-02-7, mainly because it is newer. Some of the old Armed Forces technical manuals are worth reading if you can find them, too.

8 posted on 09/21/2001 5:10:38 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe, Utah Girl, carenot,
Thanx backhoe! Lotta work you put in there, dude. It truly is appreciated.
9 posted on 09/21/2001 5:14:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN,Lady GOP,Squantos, ~all
There's more:

Ex-CIA Microbiologist Reveals Iraqi Plot to Attack US With Biowarfare by 2002 [Please read]

10 posted on 09/21/2001 5:22:09 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Bookmark Bump.
11 posted on 09/21/2001 5:24:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: backhoe, Utah Girl, Nita Nupress, Dog Gone, geezerette, squantos, Uncle Bill
1) Go to your area Boy Scout or Girl Scout Council shop to find copies of the Manuals.

2) Making the Best of Basics: Family Preparedness Handbook by James Talmadge Stevens

3) U.S. Army Survival Manual by the Dept. of Defense

4) Ranger Handbook by U.S. Army Infantry School

5) SAS Survival Guide by John Wiseman

6) SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman

7) The Complete Book of Survival : How to Protect Yourself Against Revolution, Riots, Hurricanes, Famines and Other Natural and Man-Made Disasters by Rainer Stahlberg

I have copies of manuals mentioned above (nos. 1,2,3,5,6) and can vouch for their usefulness, in terms of the scope and quality of information covered. As a homemaker, I found 2) to be personally very useful.

12 posted on 09/21/2001 5:25:45 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: backhoe, Utah Girl, Nita Nupress, Dog Gone, geezerette, squantos, Uncle Bill
Emergency Preparedness (year's supply of food, 72 hour kit)

Emergency Preparedness (Now that you have a year's supply of food, what do you do with it?)

Both threads were started by FReeper Utah Girl!

13 posted on 09/21/2001 5:29:43 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: backhoe
Chemical and Biological Weapons Threats to America: Are We Prepared?
14 posted on 09/21/2001 5:36:40 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Greatly appreciate those links & flags.

Domestic duties call- got to sign off for the nite & settle the house down- back in the AM!

15 posted on 09/21/2001 5:37:57 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Sweet of you to do this, it makes a person feel less helpless.
16 posted on 09/21/2001 5:41:50 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I'm posting this link only in the interest of every American's continued safety. I have no affiliation with this company, but they seem to have some of the things some of us might need:

www.ReadyMadeResources.com

Check out the area called "NBC Protection"

I myself have a couple of the ol' Isreali gas masks from Gulf War surplus. I probably need to update, though. I got them from Sportsman's Guide initially. Some of the stuff at the link above is kind of pricey. Maybe the ferragummit should give all Residents some highest-quality U.S. Army masks or some such. After all, we're all potential victims in this War...

17 posted on 09/21/2001 5:41:52 PM PDT by sargon
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To: backhoe
This is a load of crap, even if you have the best gas-mask in the world! You still have to change filters on a regular basis.

And the only way to change filters in a..... HOT ZONE is to..... HOLD BREATHE.....TWIST OFF.....TWIST ON......and BREATHE!

You will only find out afterwards if you did it right! Sadly the signs of failure are seizures, puking, frothing at the mouth.....DEATH!!!!

18 posted on 09/21/2001 5:47:51 PM PDT by Nitro
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To: backhoe
Good links, and all are worth reading and contemplating (a few are even worth acting on).

#1, don't panic. We ended WW2 by nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the world didn't come to an end.

#2, don't panic. Nukes are very unlikely to be used in war, and have never been exchanged between warring factions.

#3, chemical/gas warfare has been used in numerous wars, and the world is still standing.

#4, biological agents (anthrax in particular) have been used in a variety of wars, yet somehow civilization survived.

With all that said, some basic preparedness measures always make sense. Storing food and water can help out not only in the unlikely event of an NBC/ABC war, but also after a fire, earthquake, hurricane, tornado, train-wreck, or other large-scale disaster.

Consider Mazlo's "hierarchy of needs".
Food, water, air, shelter, and clothes go a long way towards survival. Self-defense tools help increase your odds. Methods to communicate (or at least receive radio) with the outside world are another plus. Long-term survival tools include farming/gardening equipment, seeds, etc. Medical supplies can help ease many situations that could otherwise get out of control, too.

And one also needs to consider that "shelter" and lots of high-value stored items carry risks. Holed up in your shelter with lots of food, water, and medical supplies, you are unlikely to leave even if radiation, rogue military forces, disease, fires, or other dangers suggest otherwise. You also present a tempting "target" to desperate souls outside your well-prepared camp. Run a generator, light all your lights, and watch DVD movies while the rest of the population is starving, and rest assured that armies and hoardes of nothing-to-lose-folks will come knocking.

So remember, the odds are that you'll never need your supplies. Misuse of your supplies will make you a target, and the mental comfort provided by your supplies and shelter will cause you to resist abandoning your enclave no matter what the situation.

That being said, don't panic. Make basic preparations. Be smart, and go on about your life. There are probably still some Y2K'ers out there who are still hiding in their underground shelters, cravenly thinking that the world destroyed itself on 1/1/2000. Don't be like them.

Be prepared, just don't let it rule your life.

19 posted on 09/21/2001 5:52:51 PM PDT by Southack
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Don't bother me now I'm trying to get this atropine injector outta my thigh........ouch ....ohhhh dizzy darn war surplus !!!

Stay Safe :o)

20 posted on 09/21/2001 5:55:11 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: backhoe
Bump for later.
21 posted on 09/21/2001 6:02:56 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama
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To: Squantos
Well, at least you made me laugh! Have a good weekend!
22 posted on 09/21/2001 6:22:00 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
You too sweet pea ! Stay Safe and outta crowds for a while.
23 posted on 09/21/2001 6:33:18 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos
No football tickets or ventures into the big city crowds for us this weekend for sure! I'm filling water bottles to store in between posts.
24 posted on 09/21/2001 6:59:57 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: backhoe
Well, I'm already having trouble sleeping. It's only a matter of time before I start loosing weight due to the anxiety and depression. I'm actually thinking of getting a gun, joining the NRA, and learning to shoot. I'm also thinking of getting myself and my kids into Tae Kwon Do. Got any suggestions, advise, etc., send 'em to mscott@motion.net. Oh, I forgot to mention I'm praying alot. I'm trying not to let my kids see how much this is starting to get to me.
25 posted on 09/21/2001 7:24:04 PM PDT by c. l. coffman
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To: backhoe
Thanks............. I guess.
26 posted on 09/21/2001 7:43:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: All
Good source for free Army Field manuals online for study about NBC, survival, first aid, MOUT and basic soldiering. Army Field manuals
28 posted on 09/22/2001 12:23:45 AM PDT by spectr17
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To: Southack~ALL
Good links, and all are worth reading and contemplating (a few are even worth acting on).

#1, don't panic

You cut to the heart of the matter very elegantly- NBC weapons are also "terror weapons," and one of the consequences of terror is panic, or doing nothing.

This can be countered by education and information-- and that is the first step to making these things less effective, and less likely to be used.

29 posted on 09/22/2001 3:25:58 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Bump.

Good rhetorical question about the Clinton legacy on your tag line, too.

30 posted on 09/22/2001 3:33:12 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: FReethesheeples
Thanks- and glad you noticed that tag line, too.... I just posted links to this on Free Dominion, thefiringline.com, capitolhillblue, and newsmax- maybe we can reach a few more people, and increase traffic on FR as well.
31 posted on 09/22/2001 4:45:40 AM PDT by backhoe (***feel Safer Yet? ? ?)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
More info, darnit!

Biological weapons: Preparing for the worst

32 posted on 09/22/2001 9:52:59 AM PDT by backhoe (***feel Safer Yet? ? ?)
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To: backhoe
Cool. Good job. I feel safer - personally. I just worry about those around us who don't have a clue about what to do in an emergency.
33 posted on 09/22/2001 9:58:33 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: backhoe
Thanks.

Bump.

34 posted on 09/22/2001 10:19:05 AM PDT by carenot
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To: carenot,NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thanks for looking, appreciate the bumps!
35 posted on 09/22/2001 10:23:11 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
bump
36 posted on 09/22/2001 10:38:20 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: c. l. coffman
Hi! You may try this website, www.paxtonquigley.com for info on self-defense. Her books are terrific and highly recommended. Don't panic! ladyneutron
37 posted on 09/22/2001 10:39:23 AM PDT by ladyneutron
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To: backhoe
A bump and a bookmark. These are serious things to consider and be prepared for. ESPECIALLY if one has kids. Like they say about owning a gun, ....better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!

Many blessings to ya, backhoe! You've done a public service that the govt has failed at!

38 posted on 09/22/2001 10:49:18 AM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: mommadooo3
Like they say about owning a gun, ....better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it

Exactly- or like learning to swim before you fall in the water! I just want lots & lots of people to educate themselves about this nasty stuff as a precaution, and maybe a deterrent to those creeps who attacked us. And to pass it on to others!

39 posted on 09/22/2001 2:57:17 PM PDT by backhoe (Has that clinton "legacy" made you feel *safer* yet? ? ?)
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To: backhoe
bump for later reading. Thanks backhoe!!

baa

40 posted on 09/22/2001 3:12:32 PM PDT by woollyone
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To: woollyone
bump
41 posted on 09/22/2001 3:20:44 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: woollyone
Thanks- for the "H" of it:

-Index of Bioterrorism articles--

42 posted on 09/22/2001 4:55:16 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
This needs a bump.
43 posted on 09/22/2001 5:25:22 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: mommadooo3
reference bump.
44 posted on 09/22/2001 7:54:14 PM PDT by woollyone
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To: All
Most excellent link for info on military gear. Good stuff Maynard
45 posted on 09/22/2001 7:54:33 PM PDT by spectr17
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To: ladyneutron
Hey thanks for the tip!
46 posted on 09/22/2001 9:32:40 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: spectr17
Thanks for posting that link! FReepers are the best!
47 posted on 09/22/2001 9:34:00 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: MHGinTN backhoe
bttt dittos MGH - "Thanx backhoe! Lotta work you put in there, dude. It truly is appreciated."
48 posted on 09/23/2001 2:20:05 AM PDT by XBob
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To: backhoe
Thank you. I'll start reading now!
49 posted on 09/23/2001 2:30:46 AM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Lady GOP
bump
50 posted on 09/23/2001 3:03:19 AM PDT by snorkeler
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