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To: Star Traveler
Admin Moderator thought it would start a flame war. At least it's only getting mocked. This article takes the "America is Babylon" angle. I would actually like to see a discussion of that also.
17 posted on 09/25/2001 10:26:55 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: sirgawain
Food for thought, Revelation?????
36 posted on 09/25/2001 10:44:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: sirgawain
Admin Moderator thought it would start a flame war. At least it's only getting mocked. This article takes the "America is Babylon" angle. I would actually like to see a discussion of that also..

Well, it might very well. But, if so, what's the problem with that. No one has to read it if they don't want to.

I do wish more people would be more into prophetic events of the Bible. It might help. I know a lot of people want to stay away from it. I would imagine that there are several reasons. One is probably because of the number of wacko ideas out there. Another is that it gets heated at times. And another is that with all that going around (from everyone else), it makes it all the more confusing. I mean, how can someone coming at this from the "outside" hope to sort it out with all the contradictory statements being made?

Well, there is one way -- by reading it yourself, diligently (i.e., the whole Bible -- a "novel idea" huh?), and then relying upon the Holy Spirit to give guidance and understanding as James tells us He will.

With the "America is Babylon" idea -- just too many problems with it. You can see how people try to stretch that idea to fit into the twin Trade Towers crashing down. It just "doesn't work". It doesn't fit too many other things. People are "grasping at straws" because they figure they "have to make it work" somehow -- and they'll try jumping on the first few things that "rings a bell" for them.

When it happens (the circumstances fitting the various prophecies), it will be so exact and perfect that no one can divorce it from the true circumstances. It simply has not happened yet.

We're not there and America is not it.

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And for the "America will be judged crowd" -- well, we read that all nations including Israel will be judge before everything is said and done and when Christ comes. So, don't worry (you who so anxiously want that to happen) -- it will. But, it will be according to God's program and not some twisting of verses in the Bible to fit preconceived notions.

38 posted on 09/25/2001 10:46:23 AM PDT by Star Traveler (aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)
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To: sirgawain
This article takes the "America is Babylon" angle.

It may be that it isn't America as a whole that is the equivalent of Babylon of old, but NYC.

With a nod to Falwell and Farrakhan, I quote Revelations 18: 9-19:

"And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning.
Stand afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city; for in one hour is thy judgment come.
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
The merchants of gold, and silver, and ...[long list of merchandise]
...and the souls of men.
And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as tread by sea, stood afar off,
And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour she is made desolate."

My main thought, distinctive from Falwell and Farrakhan, however, is that the Islamic fundamentalists can read Revelations as well as we can, and may have taken this as their blueprint for how to attack us.

47 posted on 09/25/2001 10:55:27 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Sir Gawain
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136 posted on 03/23/2002 1:26:44 PM PST by timestax
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