The Myth of Mecca

PUSA.com ^ | 9/27 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

[Forgiven_Sinner]

Josh 10:12-13 NRSV) On the day when the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand still *at Gibeon*, and Moon, *in the valley of Aijalon*."

That's a pretty good trick, making the sun stand still. Like most primitive cultures, the Israelite tribe believed the sun rotated around the earth.

I'm not sure of the Israelite belief at that time. The Bible is written from a geo-centric point of view, which is not to say that it states the sun revolves around the earth. From the view of the earth, where the Israelites were fighting, the Sun and Moon stopped moving as described. If you accept a Creator God, then this miracle would be very easy for Him. If you don't, you probably should decide whether His existance is 1) proveable, 2) dis-proveable; or 3) un-proveable. I started at 3, until His existance was required through my study of cosmology.

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[TheClintons-STILLAnti-American]

"It is one of the five basic requirements incumbent upon all Moslems that they make (if their health will allow it) a pilgrimage to Mecca once in their lives (the other four: recognize that there is no god but Allah, that Mohammed is Allah's prophet, ritually pray five times a day, and give alms to the poor)."

There is, of course, a sixth, unspoken Pillar of Islam: Surrender your free will and become a blind slave to the ramblings of an eighth century megalomaniac and his imaginary wizard-behind-the-curtain, Allah.

[TheClintons-STILLAnti-American]

"We should just point a nuclear missile at Mecca, announce to the Arab world that Islamic terrorists of all stripes are now their problem and their problem alone to deal with if they wish for Mecca not to become a smoldering crater of glass. We will provide them with every aid and incentive that they might desire to save their most holy city and root out the terrorists once and for all, but if the terrorism begins anew, they have no one but themselves to blame for what happens to Mecca if they allow their madmen to get out of control one more time. "

The Osama's of the world would love such an ultimatum. They'd trumpet it as a declaration of war on Islam, and recruiting of unemployed youth in the failed societies they blame on the U.S. would explode, as would the less overt help of millions of the others imprisoned in the cruel bondage of Islam.

[TheClintons-STILLAnti-American]

"They would easily accept Noah, as he was the father of Seth, from which many Muslims (and of course the Jews) derive."

My Bible has Abraham as the father of Israel, as is claimed by Islam as well, through his two sons, Isaac and Ishmael.

[Capn TrVth]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've never been able to figure it out, when an account has been "banned or suspended" how does the poster continue to 'post'

Is it because after the ban or suspension, posting rights may be restored but the user page retains the ban or suspended notice?

If omeone could answer I'd be much obliged. thanks.

[americanophile]

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>>>They regard Jesus as a prophet, but they reject any claim of divinity.

who died on the fake cross according to the koran? re: 4:157

>>> They do believe that in the Ascension, but they believe Jesus ascended to heaven as a mortal, where he lives to this day.

Does “Ascension” prove divinity? Secondly, who is this fake jesus in the koran, called Isa & when did he die according to koran? Looks like Isa mentioned in the koran is nothing but the copied “Gospels of Thomas” ... IMHO

[PghBaldy]

I wonder if this (Jack Wheeler) is who is on the radio now http://player.radio.com/listen/station/newsradio-1020-kdka