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Yes, arm pilots. Arm passengers and crew too. It's the law.

"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." - Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

1 posted on 09/27/2001 9:17:00 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR
"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." - Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

Thank you for flying Liberty Airlines
Have a safe flight.

To arms, to arms, the terrorists are coming!

America's Militia wants YOU!

We must be ever vigilant in protecting our inalienable rights as enumerated in the Constitution and BOR.

Congress has provided (Article I - Section. 8, U.S. Constitution) the Militia with the means to arm themselves: CMP (Civilian Markmenship Program).
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2 posted on 09/27/2001 9:21:27 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: bang_list
Bang list.
3 posted on 09/27/2001 9:22:39 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR
My thought was to initiate a new class of travler. A new section would have seats in between first class and the cockpit reserved for hockey and rugby players, of course drinks would be free.
4 posted on 09/27/2001 9:24:25 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: TERMINATTOR
THANK YOU! I was looking for this(I think it was posted before) and now it is here! Thanks so much.
7 posted on 09/27/2001 10:40:49 AM PDT by ozaukeemom
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To: TERMINATTOR
I sent in this suggestion to the DOT, UAL, and AA.

Use the hot water or hot coffee against knife wielding hijackers and then beat them over the head with the pot.

8 posted on 09/27/2001 10:52:16 AM PDT by Rockitz
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To: TERMINATTOR
I'm not a pilot or anything, but here's my 2 cents worth:

I've often thought that the people who designed commercial airliners must be just a little bit on the Clinton/Cretien side of political insanity.

AIRLINERS SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS FROM THE CABIN TO THE COCKPIT! PERIOD.

How many times have these physcopathic, fervent, frothing-at-the-mouth 'fundamentalists' just forced their way--walked--into a cabin, whipped out a weapon of some sort and then had control of a plane, and all the innocent lives on board?! There have been something like 969 hijackings since WWII...20 a year! If the pilots and navigator boarded through a separate entrance...under armed guard even better...the mass slaughter--no, not 'tragedy'; that implies an accident--of Sept 11th would never likely have come to pass.

Air marshalls are certainly a good idea now, as they were all along, but entrance to the cockpit should not be available from the cabin. If such a situation arose as a bird strike on the cockpit, killing all cockpit crew, conditions in there would most likely not be such that anyone else could gain control and bring the plane in safely, anyway,(unlike good ol BS Hollywood would have you believe) so there's really no 'gamble' involved in that approach, I don't think.

For now, though, the time being, ARM THE PILOTS! Place a security camera at the cockpit door, facing down the approaching aisle, and an infrared beam aimed across the aisle approaching the cabin. Instruct all other flightcrew to NEVER, EVER break that beam! If someone breaks the beam, break out the equalizers, hit the autopilot, and all three take aim at the door. If someone enters the cockpit, a hail of bullets enters their brain.

If more maniacs remain in the cabin, you may lose some, or even all of the passengers, but you retain control of the plane, the weapon they are REALLY after. Cut off the oxygen to the cabin, if possible, land the plane at the nearest large airport, and let the resident SWAT team enjoy themselves...

Too simple. Too judicious. The liberals would hate it. Better thousands would die than a few have hurt feelings...

Such a system of defense could EASILY be put in place...don't leave it to the airlines, just make it law; no airliner leaves the ground without armed pilots and an advance warning system. Contract out the work of equipping the planes to security companies, and watch how fast the planes get retrofitted...

9 posted on 09/27/2001 11:08:22 AM PDT by Diesel
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A Citizen’s Air Marshall Program

by Kevin Southwick

There is nothing so emasculating to us writers as facing grief utterly beyond repair and linguistic description. But such has been delivered unto the entire civilized world, with all its technological advances, by a few guys with knives. The word for the day – "stupidity."

You see, the passengers aboard the four hijacked airlines were "safe" according to the Dictionary of Modern PC Usage. That is, they were unarmed. However, there were no armed security personnel to protect them from what happened. Now the airlines are prohibiting even plastic knives on board commercial passenger jets. Does the flying public feel safer? Well, they’re staying away in droves.

Americans are not ready to trust each other with real weapons on aircraft, so, here’s a proposal – a Citizen’s Air Marshall Program.

There are tens of thousands of Americans who have been background checked by the FBI and their state’s law enforcement in order to get a Concealed Handgun License (CHL). If you have ever been in any kind of trouble with the law, forget it. You’ll be denied. I know that New York Senators Schumer and Clinton hate guns. But 9-11 should have convinced them that, yes, there is an evil bigger than NRA and gun owners. And it may show its horrible face again.

I have a CHL. I often carry a handgun in places where the law allows. I know that inside of three seconds I can kill one or more people near me. It is an awful and humbling knowledge, one that gives me to give thanks in prayer that I have never had to use this power; one that makes me aware that if I ever use this power I will have to answer legally and morally before the meticulous scrutiny of grand juries, family, friends, and priests. But if I were aboard any of the 9-11 hijacked airlines, I would have gladly pointed my handgun at the hijacker and pulled the trigger. With one shot I could have saved thousands of lives. DO YOU HEAR THAT SCHUMER AND CLINTON! (And if the pilots were murdered, as a private pilot I might have been able to land the plane with tower assistance.)

The FAA is scrambling at this moment to get sky marshals aboard commercial aircraft. But there are not nearly enough, and we are the potential victims. So why rely on full time sky marshals? Why not implement a program to allow anyone with a CHL to apply for certification as a Citizen Sky Marshall?

We could learn procedures in what to do with a hijacker, how to discretely present our credentials at the ticket counter and be walked through the metal detector. We could take annual proficiency tests to make sure we comply with any recent FAA rules and to refamiliarize ourselves with safety procedures. We might be required to use ammo that is least likely to compromise the aircraft’s pressurized skin. Insurance regulations and federal law would immune us from liability as long as we use force to answer force. There could be lockers at airports where we could lock our weapon in destination states or countries that do not recognize our CHL. There could be thousands of us in the air within a week.

What are we waiting for? Another disaster?

This would not be a paid job, mind you. It merely extends right-to-carry to the airlines whenever we might be traveling. With a few armed passengers – and pilots – scattered randomly, and unpredictably, potential hijackers would have to consider: who is armed? That guy in coach reading the newspaper? That little old lady in first class? The young woman using her laptop in business class? Anyone of them could rise up with a gun and say…

Hey, you, DROP THE BOX CUTTER. NOWWWW!

10 posted on 09/27/2001 11:15:36 AM PDT by tberry
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Get the hijackers off their feet. Go into an immediate dive to float them to the ceiling. Then execute a 6G positive maneuver and hope they hit their head or break their back as they hit the floor, galley shelf, etc.

While I applaud the spirit of the article, the content of the above excerpt makes me a wee bit suspicious of the author's credentials. A DC-10 pilot? I don't think so, Tim.

12 posted on 09/27/2001 11:46:56 AM PDT by LTCJ
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Boycott American carriers if they are not allowed to arm their pilots(at least for int'l flights)
14 posted on 09/27/2001 12:13:19 PM PDT by kennyo
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