The West at War:Meeting the Enemy:We have lots of Nuclear Weapons and

The Sunday Mirror:UK ^ | October 1st, 2001 | The Sunday Mirror:UK

[FreedomPoster]

Ugly scenario, one that I've thought of myself. Given the level of press control in the totalitarian (all variants) Muslim states, a nuke in Afghanistan would of course be blamed on the U.S., even if the radiation signiture is pure Soviet ("acquired" in the chaos of the disintegration of the empire), or Paki.

[Flint]

An airliner filled with fuel IS a weapon of mass destruction.

Heck, a couple of guys here in NC tossed a pipe bomb in the basment of a courthouse the other day. The have been charged with making and using a weapon of mass distruction. It only blew a few windows out.

[bluetoad]

Osama Bin Laden and his boys used Simple Knives and Paper/Box Cutters in New York to send us and the rest of the world a message. “The US is Not Invincible”

This guy wants to inspire the “World of Islam into a Holy War plain and simple”. If he is killed so much the better he gets an express ticket to heaven, and martyrs always inspire more martyrs for the good of the cause.

Osama is a guerrilla fighter and he thinks like one. His attacks escalating in nature thus far TWA 800, Egyptian Air, American Embassies in Africa, USS Cole, Oklahoma City (10 %-20% chance of funding IMO), and now WTC and the Pentagon were/are designed to probe and see how we will react and allow him(or his Organization) to adapt. He knows where we are weak.

At the same time OBL has been and still is developing his network of financial support, intelligent support, and terrorist capabilities. The US has many enemies and he will exploit as many as he needs.

OBL will make one move at a time, but he looks ahead several moves at a time. He will exploit one event then move on to the next.

His technique is obvious “Death by a Thousand Cuts”.

[Poohbah]

Your scenario ignores the problem that the US response is far less likely to be sending TROOPS hither and thither, and more likely to be sending nuclear warheads here and there...never send an infantryman to do a nuclear warhead's job.

[oyez]

These people are crazed fanatics and only understand force.

After all, they are willing to die. Beter sooner than later, before they do who knows what.

[gjenkins]

I think they are waiting for what he said ... escallation. There are ominous signs that we are courting allies among those who will never be our allies, and we are snubbing those who would be. If this escallates, I think Europe will tuck its tail, the muslims will unite, and The Chnese and Soviets will watch with glee.

[Loopy]

Your scenario ignores the problem that the US response is far less likely to be sending TROOPS hither and thither, and more likely to be sending nuclear warheads here and there...never send an infantryman to do a nuclear warhead's job.

Thanks for the riposte!! No, I think that at the beginning of such a disaster (as has been seen by the handling of the present disaster) there could be expected to be a rather constrained response. When I said rushing troops hither and thither I was really talking about expected attempts at quelling local disturbances, the failure fo which would only add to the flames of Islamics.

[riri]

One thing that is bothering me, oh cripes there area about a thousand things bothering me, but in particular...Do we have enough of our military assets positioned close enough together that a large explosion could seriously hurt us?

Additionally, I too believe bin Laden and coherts deliberately provoked us 9.11 and are saving the big guns for later. He has claimeed he can bring down the US in three days..ponder what he meant by that?

[Loopy]

My scenario (see above) would accomplish exactly that. It would put the US back 50 years. Please let me have your comments.

[riri]

x42 sent the US back 50 years....

[Poohbah]

Not really. Can't say beyond that.

[Loopy]

I'm talking globally and strategically. Such a series of developments would make the US position in the Mideast untenable.

[garyhope]

Do we have any kind of radiation sensors at entry points? Can a unexploded nuke be detected by radiation?

[Poohbah]

Yes--they emit gammas and neutrons. We use gamma-ray spectometry and neutron activation analysis to detect explosives--a GRS/NAA rig would detect something EMITTING gammas and neutrons and sound a BIG alarm.

[gjenkins]

My western mind can not fathom a sacrificial nuc. It could happen, and we would be left holding the bag by irrational zealots, pansy pacifists, and our own nieve ideas about capitalism without principle. I think we need to quit relying on Mid-East oil and the belief that we can further our interests by playing musical mid-east chairs. Alas, this will never happen.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Good thoughts!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[DCPatriot]

Horse Poop!

Kill them all!

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[DAnconia55]

My opinion is a bit different.

WW III will look like this :

India, Britain, Japan, Russia, US vs China, Iraq, Pakistan, Terrorists, other Arabs. With perhaps Iran and Saudi sitting out. If Israel gets in... well...
There are no plausible scenarios where the Russians attack us. They know us. They understand and can reason with us. They have dealt with us. They do not want to deal with Muslim fanatics. I'd imagine Putin has a lot more nightmares about Arab attacks than he does us....

Russia has a vested interest in protecting itself from Muslim/Arab powers. Further, they have an interest in our own survival.
Nah, you read it right. If we go, there's nothing stopping China from moving 10,000,000 infantry in the only free direction they can march.... North.

The supposition I have seen here, about Russia's strategic goals made sense. (Sorry FReeper, I forgot you.) Northern Hemisphere against the South or Middle.

My belief is we'll see a lot more US and Russian cooperation. And if we could shed the vestiges of the Cold War, we could probably cooperate for some geniune good.

If we have to have this Global Political organization (and I admit , that sooner or later, in one form or another .... global government is inevitable) - I'd certainly prefer to have the Russians at the bargaining table than the Muslims. At least that way, there's a slim chance of a Republican form of government. With shared history, similar ideals, and worldviews. This is not possible under any Muslim rule or coalition.

To Ponder: Russia has more Chinese illegal immigrants than we have Mexicans... And the Mexicans don't have 1.2 Billion people, tanks and Nuclear weapons.

Madrussian ping : Is my analysis correct?

[gjenkins]

I hope you are right, but I have read to many 'USSR Deception' articles.