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1 posted on 10/05/2001 8:01:23 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
What exactly were his comments?
2 posted on 10/05/2001 8:05:32 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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Egan was screaming for justice against the terrorists from the moment it happened. His comments are being blown way out of proportion. Even President Bush said we need to re-examine our "culture". It's not about blaming the U.S. for the attack, it's about recognizing how precious and short life is, how much evil is in the world, and fixing those areas where we are falling short ourselves. This is usually when those things happen (e.g. Pearl Harbor), when people start re-prioritizing and repenting for their own misdeeds. Cardinal Egan is not blaming Americans, he is calling on us to reflect on how we can refrain from contributing to evil in our country (as people are still getting murdered, mugged, and abused on your block).
3 posted on 10/05/2001 8:12:58 AM PDT by Dirk McQuickly
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Cardinal Egan Tells America: Examine your Soul


5 posted on 10/05/2001 8:23:17 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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The press has an obligation to hold Cardinal Egan's feet to the fire and to get some answers as to precisely what he meant by his comments.

His comments were very clear. Maybe what you mean is that we ought to use the press to hound Egan mercilessly and either force him to recant or get him impeached, or defrocked, or whatever it is.

Certainly, someone should rid the president of this meddlesome priest. This is no damn time for people to betray their country by exercising their freedom of religion or free speech. Not even supposedly "godly" men like Cardinal Egan. He needs to be watched.

8 posted on 10/05/2001 8:26:54 AM PDT by Hidy
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I was reading one of my Hilaire Belloc books last night, I think it was titled "the crisis of civilization." If your unfamiliar with Belloc, hes a catholic writer, lived from about 1890 to 1953. Anyway he has a great chapter related to "Nationalism", when I read the chapter it sure fit todays mood..."country uber alles"

I believe the Cardinals words are very appropriate, and very misunderstood by our pagan society.

10 posted on 10/05/2001 8:32:53 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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About 25,000 unborn babies were butchered in America in the same week that 5,000 people were butchered in the attack on the World Trade Center.

And 25,000 unborn babies have been butchered in every week since.

You can draw your own conclusions.

12 posted on 10/05/2001 8:36:03 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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I was also upset by Cardinal Egan's remarks. I was also brought up as Roman Catholic. I find Cardinal Egan's comments to be no different than Jerry Farwell's comments.
16 posted on 10/05/2001 8:45:07 AM PDT by Patriotic Bostonian
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The comments from the Cardinal in the NewsMax article seem to be exactly what a priest should be saying. It seems to me that anyone who disagrees with it has no business in a church.

To put "patriotism" (nationalism) ahead of the quest for spiritual unfoldment is not the job of a priest.

22 posted on 10/05/2001 8:55:55 AM PDT by OK
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Cardinal Egan is a rock-solid Catholic Churchman, if anything a bit more conservative than Cardinal O'Connor. I got to know him pretty well while he was Bishop of Bridgeport. This is nothing but an underhanded effort by the media to split and divide conservatives--something they do all the time, and there always seem to be people eager to swallow their poisoned bait.

Are you saying that the Cardinal should have said that Americans are totally without sin? That's about all his remark amounted to, that no one is entirely without sin.

But it's pretty obvious that it was a trick question. McCain and his left-wing admirers in the press tried very hard to do the same thing to Bush last year, when he spoke at Bob Jones University. "Divide and conquer" is the old name for it. It's typical slimy behavior on the part of our lying media.

29 posted on 10/05/2001 10:08:20 AM PDT by Cicero
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AmChurch, the dominant faction of the Catholic Church in America is the shame of traditional conservative Catholics.

AmChurch is dominated by gay-lesbian radical activists that have sheltered child molesters now on trial in every major American city from L.A. to Boston.

New York's Cardinal Egan is at the head of perhaps the most divided region of the Catholic Church in the U.S.

33 posted on 10/05/2001 12:00:45 PM PDT by Havisham
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We can only hope that Cardinal Egan, while in Rome, can get Silvio Berlisconi to explain to him what is going on here.
38 posted on 10/06/2001 12:20:06 PM PDT by Faraday
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