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Anthrax Case Puzzles Investigators - No Other Cases Found, Source Remains a Mystery
AP BREAKING ^ | Oct 6, 2001 | Amanda Riddle

Posted on 10/06/2001 11:52:59 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!

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To: spectre
Wow, I didn't know the vaccine was in that short a supply. Sheesh. Can you call around to other counties to check on availability? Maybe check with your county health department? I know around here supply can vary widely from county to county.

As for smallpox, I did see one talking head on TV when asked about those of who had been vaccinated in our youth, the wonk said that he personally could not guarantee that that shot would provide complete protection, though he did that that it could certainly lessen the severity of any case contracted. The not providing complete protection was news to me. Hadn't heard that before or since. Maybe something to do with the virus mutating over the past few decades or something. Hope someone else looks into that aspect of things.

61 posted on 10/06/2001 3:01:42 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: TheLurkerX
We aren't going to get the straight story on anything from now on.

Might hurt the war effort I guess. Strange thing, I've been trying to find info whether or not ozone in low concentrations could kill the anthrax spores. I hit on some .gov sites that would seem to confirm it could, but for some reason "document can't be found".

62 posted on 10/06/2001 3:08:22 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
HERE Is Your Link.

I was thinking about the mail also or worse... products on shelves in our stores that are not tamper proof.

63 posted on 10/06/2001 3:12:23 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Eagle Eye
Okay I will move along nothing here to see -or con spire but their can be cons spire ing- and buy a car and fly to the bahamas and have sex with Bart Simpson as you assure me life is blue water snorkeling with a pina colada,so very well.

BTW:Buy the Israeli gas masks (or the new military issued ones) and plenty of change out cartriges and make sure you fit them well to small children and wear them 24/7.

64 posted on 10/06/2001 3:21:38 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Dog Gone
I don't think bin Laden believes in warning shots. And I think anthrax would be hard to give to only one person.

Not warning shots, per se, but bin Laden employs a low tech, high-failure rate approach, rather like the new NASA strategy for planetary missions. Remember that the first attempt to take down the WTC towers, back in 1993, was a flop: the terrorists hope to topple both towers and spray cyanide gas all over lower Manhattan, killing 200,000 people, but instead both towers remained standing, the cyanide simply dispersed harmlessly, due to the explosion, and only six perished. Anthrax is a frightening weapon, but a hard one to deliver effectively. The crop dusters that Atta & crew were inquiring after would be a relatively poor delivery system, but probably something that bin Laden would be happy to work with in the interim. Of course, the fact that there has so far been only one case does not preclude other fatalities, but the lack of a rash of cases implies either that this was a test shot or accidental spillage, or that they didn't use a very effective delivery system.

65 posted on 10/06/2001 3:23:56 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Thx for posting the link.

I was thinking about the food angle first ...but would be problematic in that it would be hard to get everyone to eat the same type of item at the same time and harder still to contaminate vast numbers of food items throughout the country simultaneously. (Perhaps on a traditional holiday certain types of items might be targeted, I suppose (ie: Thanksgiving).

A mailing though could be done simultaneouly to lots of people and could involve an attractive offer or sample product that might even invite someone to smell it (fragrant powder, perfume etc).

I hate it when my mind works like this! (/paranoia)

66 posted on 10/06/2001 3:29:12 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Clinton's a rapist
My thoughts exactly!
67 posted on 10/06/2001 3:36:07 PM PDT by FireTrack
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
A mailing though could be done simultaneouly to lots of people and could involve an attractive offer or sample product that might even invite someone to smell it (fragrant powder, perfume etc).

Another reason not to snort cocain!

68 posted on 10/06/2001 3:42:53 PM PDT by FireTrack
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The idea that there must be other cases of anthrax for this to be terrorist related is being drummed into Americans from our federal government and from the news media.

We need to look at this isolated case as a test. Again and again bin Laden's group have tested our resolve and our response -- the USS Cole, the WTC, the Pentagon, the downed flight in Pennsylvania. The operative word is test.

This man who died of anthrax lived a mile from where the terrorist demons were known to have been. There may well be more of them in that location. If they found a way to deliver anthrax to an isolated individual, it is not inconceivable that they would want to see what our response would be. How long would it take us to figure it out.

I do not expect our government to tell us the truth in these times. I expect them to try to calm us even when they appear ridiculous like Tommy Thompson. I expect to hear "isolated incident" a thousand times over.

We are fighting a monstrous evil that hates. This evil hates you. It hates me. It hates liberty. It hates life. And this evil has co-workers living in our midst whom we call terrorist or radical Islamic extremists or even servants of satan.

We who see things in spiritual terms know this to be the spiritual war of our lives. It requires prayer to the point of sweating blood.

Yet even I wonder about very practical things. Deportations. Sealing borders. Keeping foreign nationals from entering our country by air -- without exception. We appear to be doing very little to reduce the threat among us because we are afraid to upset Muslims or Arabs.

Fine. Deport every single non-US national living on our soil either as a tourist, student, green-carder, non-essential embassy and consular personnel, journalists ... you name it. If they aren't American, right now we need to clear them out.

69 posted on 10/06/2001 3:43:50 PM PDT by father_elijah
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
This is no coincidence! You have to inhale a ton of this stuff to get sick - unless it's some kind of human-altered form. The fact that no one else has reported symptoms is even more scary. This guy would have to been standing on contaminated ground sheering infected goats and sheep for five years to get sick! Perhaps he is a test subject?
70 posted on 10/06/2001 3:45:07 PM PDT by Woodstock
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To: tuesday afternoon
I guess he's sick with something very similar, which is the scary part.
But so far evidentally it's not anthrax.
71 posted on 10/06/2001 3:50:20 PM PDT by DaughterofEve
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Tell the paranoia police of thoughts that you are busy having sex with Bart Simpson and carry on thinking outloud it is a free country and forum :-)

I will turn the paranoia tags off as well so we will all be free from it.

< /paranoia >

72 posted on 10/06/2001 3:54:28 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: father_elijah
I repeat what I said above if they knew we were hit they would not cause public panic anymore than an asteroid hitting earth. People are already ignorantly buying useless defective Russian masks at their local army navy store.In other words panic buying when they have zero training to use.

Logically I believe we are wise in awaiting revenge as Bin Loon wants us scared but does he have nuke suitcases and more sick surprises. Phsy warfare is very much an issue and it is a different type of war.

73 posted on 10/06/2001 4:01:05 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: father_elijah
We need to look at this isolated case as a test.

I agree with you, but in a different way.

Perhaps this was set up as a test by the network to check out the lethality of the existing spores and delivery method before a full bore attack is made.

In this case, both the deadliness of the available anthrax and effectiveness of whatever delivery system was used may have been proven to somebody's satisfaction. As there seems to be no indication the victim knew he was attacked or infected, it makes this event all the more scary. He may have been an unknowing guinea pig for an anthrax beta test. After all, why play such a big hand if you don't know the stuff works the way it is supposed to the first time? Why go to all the trouble and exposure if for some reason the batch is not lethal?

This may have been a surreptitious attack done exclusively to check the deadliness of this batch of particular anthrax, which is now awaiting distribution through watever means. It is now proven sufficiently deadly to take the next step, whatever that may be. If it were, then the main batch is probably awaiting H-Hour in The Plan.

... /tin foil hat ...

74 posted on 10/06/2001 4:12:00 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
I am certain you are right about the government not wanting to create panic. And I am certain that bin Laden's terrormongers have suitcase/briefcase nukes and worse.
75 posted on 10/06/2001 4:12:30 PM PDT by father_elijah
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To: BabylonXXX
For my fellow patriots - this stuff is the best

Anthrax epidemic...

APPROVAL OF CIPRO® FOR USE AFTER EXPOSURE TO INHALATIONAL ANTHRAX

U.S. approves antibiotic to fight anthrax

76 posted on 10/06/2001 4:27:10 PM PDT by Fred
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The form that attacks the lungs is usually fatal. See Merck Manual article on anthrax.
77 posted on 10/06/2001 4:32:15 PM PDT by HENRYADAMS
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To: Gritty
Pretty much my thoughts also (although I think they are primarily interested in the delivery mechanism) ...I'm still thinking "mass mailing" is the planned vector ...for the test, mailing would also leave the terrorists a control for being sure who recd the test batch (otherwise the terrorists couldn't be sure of whom to watch to see if they developed the disease).

Unfortunately, if that is the delivery mechanism it is likely already discarded in a landfill somewhere.

78 posted on 10/06/2001 4:35:00 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: tuesday afternoon
I had to read this three times before I noticed the guy they're watching worked in the same building. Why do they need to conitnually monitor him?

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn´t a little tidbit in the manual about spreading toxins via workplace ducts and the like?

Well, loaded up the fam and took a little daytrip down to old Mexico..spent the tuition money on antibiotics. Don´t know if they would actually be worth a d*amn but it´s always fun to go down there and buy meds. Tried for some percodan..no such luck. LOL

79 posted on 10/06/2001 4:36:04 PM PDT by riri
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
He drank water from a stream while on a trip; he was an outdoorsman. There's lots of little microbes in the cleanest of water.
80 posted on 10/06/2001 4:40:29 PM PDT by Coleus
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